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Re: competition sway bar opinions needed

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Thanks to all for the additional input / advice !
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Daryl Smith wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:21 pm "If you can tell a difference on a weekend driver, I would be absolutely shocked."
Sid, buddy,....you are driving....OLD......

"Unless you are pushing it in corners there are better ways to spend your money."
And why have a roadster if you are not "pushing it" in corners? Damn. Get a Corrolla if you aren't gonna drive it! :D :lol:
FWIW, I get sideways almost every time out in the car. The bigger swaybar makes a difference. Weekend or not.


Daryl, I was referring to the post by 23yearrebuild. Personally I autocross my roadster and find that sideways is slow ways (albeit fun ways), perhaps you need better tires😀

23yrRebuild wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:50 pm I don't see where anyone has asked specifically, unless I've stupidly missed it, but...is there any significant benefit for the larger 22, or 23mm sway bars, over the original equipped ones, on just a weekend driver, driven over the occasional bumpy, road patched, and pot-holed residential streets, and highways ?....or is it really better suited for fast & flat cornering, as in in track and auto-cross ?
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Re: competition sway bar opinions needed

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theunz:
You're right, sideways is the slow way, but it is fun to kick the back end out once in a while...(much easier with 2L and strokers). When I settle on a configuration for my engine, and keep it on the road for a while, I definitely plan on a few autocross runs...

23yrRebuild,
I am running stock front springs, 180 lb/in composite leaf rear springs, 3.7 limited slip diff and Bilstiens (recent addition), but most driving experience with KYB's.

With the bigger sway bar:
1) I noticed no difference in the 'ride', as I expected. I intentionally stayed with the stock springs/rates/height for a smoother ride and clearance for speed bumps/road 'imperfections'.
2) I do push the limits at times....but, even when not really pushing it, the car goes through the corners flatter and has a more stable 'feel'.

If you have this sports car, and you actually like 'driving', the bigger swaybar would be near the top of my list of mods after getting a bit more power/efficiency out of a stock engine. YOMV.
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A bit of roll to it in turns isn't such a bad thing for a novice STREET racer you know how fast it can go thru the turn . With a stiffer bar /less roll , it will just slide instead of grip.( if cond. are right) If too much G side force, it breaks contact sliding away , sand dust on the pavement when it was clear last time can be very bad .
My 86 Subaru XT turbo 5sp. Much fun to race around but I learned not to assume how fast it could go around a fast curve ...this lite ride slipped 6-8"s like a heavier car slipped 2-3"
Might try polyura bushings 1st
Keep in mind in racing you do not have oncoming traffic , usually take the optimum
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Re: competition sway bar opinions needed

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Comp sway bars are great and make a huge difference but it can be a costly up grade if you haven’t gone through the front end. Anything worn out( idler box, upper a arms , lower ball joints) will now need attention.

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