Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by jrusso07 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:35 pm

After initial install, take a flat blade screw driver and "flip" tHe lower lip into the mount side of the ball joint. To seal it. It is a little tricky to do but ounce you seal it, it doesn't come out again. I will post a pic (tie rod end or center link)

These are pics of the center link. The left hand one is not "seated" (before) the right hand is "seated" (after)

I chose red too

Before: http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7046/vr0j.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

After: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3015/irh1.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It takes a little patience...place blade of screwdriver under the end of the boot. Lift up until you can slide the blade on top of the casing. Move blade around circumference of casing. Thin wide blades work best. Remember you are compressing that urethane so it will fight you.
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by notoptoy » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:37 pm

Interesting tip, I had not seen that before.
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by Gregs672000 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:10 am

I just got done greasing the front end, and all of mine look like your first pic, me not knowing of this trick. I will give it a try too! Thanks for posting... Learn new stuff all the time from this great bunch!
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by svwilbur » Thu May 05, 2016 10:59 am

reviving a thread. im interested in how to seat the boots.

I plan on doing the boot install soon, a couple weeks from now.
but the pictures above are lost like half the pictures always seem to be as they are from a private site and not uploaded.

can someone explain this boot seating process better or post a picture?
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by svwilbur » Sat May 07, 2016 1:30 am

can someone explain this boot seating process better or post a picture?
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by 111jag » Thu May 23, 2019 9:48 am

Yes, pictures uploaded by Photoshop and other private sites are not visible anymore because sites like Photoshop are now charging money for pictures. It is a shame for forums like this one because a lot of pictures are now missing. Anyhow, I'm in the process of buying boots and seating them as well. Can someone please answer the above question from 2016 and the best place to buy boots at a reasonable price?
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by FergO2k » Thu May 23, 2019 10:56 am

Energy Suspension has them (Ron's post has the list) and they work great. I am sure numerous vendors have them as well. (Support Our Vendors!)

In terms of seating them, you can see from the pics that still are viewable on Page 1 that new vs OEM are a little different design, but both function the same. (positive pressure of grease keeps the joint surrounded, keeping dirt and moisture out, refill regularly based on use and heat. Pump until it squeezes out, then gently wipe off the excess, good to go)
(note: it is just the new ones are easier to mold and less expensive to tool for molding, and the materials are WAY better suited for the beating that underbelly use dishes out)

So, "rimming them in".
The joint/metallic may have a slight undercut for the boot rim to ride into. If this is the case, they have sized them so that the boot is squeezed tight over the normal diameter shaft, but "slips" in to this undercut. But you have to get it there.
The flat blade screwdriver works, you are just laying the blade so that tip is normal/perpendicular to joint shaft, twist/cant the blade slightly so one side is higher, then make high side the trailing edge and starting working the boot up untilit "clicks" into the slot. Now when you pump the grease, it is going to come out the top because that location is a mere friction fit.
Some prefer the dental tool instead of the flat blade screwdriver, but that is more prone to sticking/tearing the boot.
I would have to say the new urethane boots are very durable, and if you throw them in the clothes dryer for 2-5 minutes they are very soft and workable. (only do this when they are new and clean!!!)
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by FergO2k » Thu May 23, 2019 10:57 am

http://fcrcmachine.com/rare-parts-upper ... ter-10250/

this one has an undercut in the joint on the lower side for the boot to index into
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by 2mAn » Thu May 23, 2019 12:40 pm

My old boots are torn and I want to replace them with these, Ive had them for a while and now seems like the best time to do it.

Is there a walk-through for a newbie like me?
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by FergO2k » Thu May 23, 2019 12:48 pm

No, but we can make one, and I have the pickle fork and BFH to loan you for removing the joints.
I got a small bin and put 1/2 gal of diesel in it to use as "parts washer" that worked great and left the surroundings clean as well.
Best time to do shock/spring, etc at same time, if you need to.
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by 2mAn » Thu May 23, 2019 1:14 pm

I have a pickle fork and also have some NOS parts upper splindles. I kinda want to knock those out together
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Re: Urethane tie rod and ball joint boots

Post by TeemuM » Fri May 24, 2019 11:45 am

I bought these for my car. Seems to fit in place ok.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/322223246698
https://www.ebay.com/itm/321829350427
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