SR20DE Swap in Florida

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SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Hello everyone, I am getting close to having a completely rust free painted 68 Roadster! I know I have a bit to go but just getting to this point has been an amazing fun and expensive ride. I have the new SR20DE S14 already in with the engine mount gig form Michael Spreadbury. I have a terrifying movie of the car after sandblasting if anyone wants to feel good about there build. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4doLOQ5E9NI
It is now at Visual FX in Saint Augustine, FL. Great body shop if you live around here. The guy in the movie is my fabricator not me.
I will be adding lot of info on my build as it becomes my turn to get my hands on my new toy. So far its just been polishing and buying parts. I got the car for a Christmas present (2016) from my family to replace my other that I lost to a drunk driver. If only they knew how excessive compulsive I could be, I never would have got this present. I look forward to chatting with you all, and I would like to thank all of you that will be helping me ahead of time! Now I just need to figure out how to add photos...
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:24 pm

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This was my ride for about 33 years. Sadly she is no more...
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:29 pm

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Now this is my ride!
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:44 pm

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getting the front fenders finished and fitting the roll bar. 1995 Miata seats ( I have already purchased the new covers). As you can see, I'm not going for the stock look. I already did that in my old car. I'm hoping to get her back in my garage before Christmas.
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:01 pm

List of body parts so far (i think I'm done buying body parts)
1. Trunk Pan & Quarter Pockets
2. Trunk Lid
3. Driver Front Fender
4. Passenger Front Fender
5. Lower front valance panel
6. Complete Floor Pan & Rockers
7. Airdam from Les
8. Hood
9. Lots of chrome parts.
Needless to say if you watched the youtube video I have had countless hours of fabrication done so that the exterior body had something to attach to.
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:03 pm

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This was an older photo with the rusted out fenders but the SR20DE fits in nicely!
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by notoptoy » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:35 pm

Wow, you have come a long way quickly! Looking great!
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:32 pm

Thinking about the limited slip conversion kit on ebay from Traction Concepts. Anyone have anything to say about it? Also looking at Air Conditioning...
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:31 pm

I was planning on getting the car completely painted before I started the mechanical work but I may be rethinking this. What have the rest of you done?
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by pebbles » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:27 pm

Bigtaku wrote:I was planning on getting the car completely painted before I started the mechanical work but I may be rethinking this. What have the rest of you done?
What type of mechanical work? chassis?
imho either way you choose, something will require protection. you could lift the painted body and roll the chassis out from under it.
if welding and cutting and grinding etc, wait!
at a minimum, mockup prior to paint.
before paint..."oh those will look fine".. after paint, "those look terrible".....
make sure the new windshield (bare) sits flat on the pinch welds, no gaps.
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:42 am

I'm having the body shop do most everything except the getting the engine running. I wish I could afford to have them do everything. They do an excellent job at total restoration. (I need to get to know my new engine anyway...) They have already finished the frame mods but still need to powder coat it. I have a ton of messy work to do and don't want to mess up my new paint. I am having the interior painted as well so everything that goes through the firewall can't be in place before painting. Setting up the new engine will require more cutting in the engine bay. I know there is no way to not mock up prior to painting but there must be a cut off line... I guess my question is, at what point is the best point to get it painted?
Hopefully some of you have already gone through this and could share your mistakes and or thoughts.
Thank you for your windshield advice David.
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by sfdaugherty » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:00 am

My hats off to you for keeping that body. I don't know that I've seen that much tinworm before. Most people would have looked for a body with less rust.

I had my bodywork done prior to finishing my swap. I have some dings and dents as a result of continued work on the car. Its a tough call but, if I had it to do over again, I would wait to paint the car until you are done with the mechanical portion and are ready to put the body on the frame one last time.

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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Ed Mason » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:40 pm

I fit my engine/trans with body off (of course) then removed engine/trans and restored frame and suspension components. Detailed and painted engine compartment. Installed engine/trans on rolling restored frame. Installed body on frame, leveled and aligned body, then finished body work on mobile car. Had a lot of masking to do to protect frame, suspension and engine compartment, but allowed me to get proper door alignment, etc. With turbo engine more work because of turbo plumbing and intercooler. When you get done though, you will be very happy.
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:40 pm

Thank you Shannon and Ed. I guess I will wait for the frame to be finished. By that time the front fender flares should be completed as well. Then start the engine work with the body off. I need the weight of the engine in so I know how to finish the fenders. Getting to the fun part. Shannon, I think I may get the most restored rust bucket award with this build! I have to say that when my kids found this car in South Carolina it did look pretty clean. Looks were very deceiving. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy knowing this car would never have lasted and I saved her from death.
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Re: SR20DE Swap in Florida

Post by Bigtaku » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:59 am

I know it the little things but I received my carpet kit and my Miata seat covers yesterday.
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