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Real track time. The roadster goes to Sears Point.
Real track time. The roadster goes to Sears Point.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:20 am
by SLOroadster
It was a beautiful day to run a roadster at one of California's most famous race tracks. It hasnt seen a real track day since the 2006 Mt Shasta all Datsun meet where I ran it at Thunderhill race way in Willows Ca.
I didn't drive the car however. My close friend Dan was given a track day eveni by his wife for his birthday back in December. Well the day rolled around and he didn't have a car with a roll bar. Being the good friend that I am, I said he could run my car. I was also more than curious to see what it could turn on the track.
Well, he went out on the street tires for his first 2 sessions. The car was running really well aside from being known a little unhealthy. He was learning the lines through the track and once he had them down, it was time to try the real tires. I pretty much knew what a handful car was with the street tires, and decided that it was time to sacrifice some r-compounds to the roadster gods. The result was a best lap of 2.18. While not the fastest time out there, by the end of the day he was giving everyone in front of him a run for their money. We didn't retune for race power and gas, but just left it in street mode. It held its own and offered up a couple of good photo opps.
Wheel change... race tires:
Wow, look! Its my whole collection at the track!
Man those Panasports look good.
Hayashi race wheels on the roadster.
Alvin also turned up so hopefully he will post a few pictures as well.
Willl
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:24 am
by SLOroadster
I don't know why my links won't show, but if you right click on them and select "view Image" they still work. On the other hand the ones that did show are HUGE. Sorry about that.
Will
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:06 am
by Alvin
Good seeing you and Dan at the track!
Will's roadster sounded great out there, especially coming up to turn2, I will upload a clip to youtube shortly(video of Datsun chasing Porsche )
It was funny hearing Dan's night/day reaction to the race-tires...I'll have to kick down for a set soon for my Z.
Here is the roadster at the end of the day:
Panasport's rule!
Pretty Hayashi's
Will's Afa looks proper:
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:25 am
by RC240z
Alvin thanks for the photos. Will I can't open your photos.
Ron
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:35 pm
by Alvin
video clip!
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:21 pm
by RC240z
Nothing better than a healthy roadster on a race track!!
Looking good Will!
Alvin are those tire goobers on your lens?
R
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:58 pm
by Alvin
Ron, yes unfortunately I had to use my back-up camera since the new one was full.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:20 pm
by datsunrides
Sears is a cool, yet dangerous track. I raced motorcycles there for 4 years and just about every race I attended, some poor guy took a helicopter ride out! My favorite part was coming out of 11 and going WFO to turn 2 under the bridge that used to be there. I always HATED that off camber turn 2, always felt like I was going to crash there. Will, did you run the old course with the carousel ( if they still use it)or the "NASCAR" course? Did they put a chicane on the drag strip to slow down the entry to turn 1?
Mark
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:13 pm
by ppeters914
Nice.
SLOroadster wrote: On the other hand the ones that did show are HUGE. Sorry about that.
Will, they're huge because you linked to the full size pics. You might get the links for 800x600 or 640x480 and email 'em to Steve since we can't edit our posts anymore.
Just a thought.....
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:20 pm
by SLOroadster
I wasn't driving this weekend, but they were using the old course. The NASCAR version is a joke (kinda like NASCAR). There was an incident between an instructor and a different student, the instructor felt he didn't like the looks of his Miata hood so he rear ended the student in the braking zone of 11.
I guess by the end of the day yesterday Dan had the course down and was holding off big power cars (new M5s, 500 hp Mustangs ect.) The only place he was giving up time was between the bottom of 6 and 7 out on the drag strip runoff. From 7 all the way down to 10 there were very few faster cars on course. He was afraid to push it through 10 due to being at the very top of 4th gear and apparently the car needs some downforce at those speeds on track. I guess he had several people come up to him afterward and comment that the car was "a bit more than a momentum car". That was coming from a guy in a newer M5 who could catch him out of 6 but couldn't put a pass down between there and turn 7 at which point he would up and leave again through the esses. He'd be pulled back in down the front stretch only to start to pull away going up through 2,3, 3a and 4. Apparently it wanted to pull 4th gear through 6 but didn't have enough grip to even think about it. I guess its a 3rd 4th gear track with the potential to be a 3-5 gear if one has the guts to try. (Those walls are scary.) I think his best time for Sunday was about a 2:10 with more possible with a race tune and a fully healthy engine.
I was trying to leave them large so someone could download them for a desktop if they wanted. I always upload stuff in raw format (7.1 mp) for this reason.
Here is a link to the gallery they are in. It has some stuff from my PCA adventures to start and Sears Point is pretty obvious.
Will
RE:Will's Pics
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:46 pm
by S Allen
Way too big for the forum. I resized and uploaded them to the album and then edited your thread. Looking good.
Steve
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:03 pm
by SLOroadster
Thanks Steve. I'll try to resize before sticking pics up on the board next time.
Did you happen to run your orange car at Sears Point or just Thunderhill. If so do you know what your lap times were?
Will
RE:Sears
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:31 am
by S Allen
Glad to help Will. All my seat time was Thunderhill. I really wanted to run at Sears but never made it down there. Definitely a nice track-watched a lot of SCCA racing, Le Mans, and NASCAR races there. I even got to flag the top of turn 1 during one of the NASCAR races.
Steve
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:49 am
by da-man
datsunrides wrote:Sears is a cool, yet dangerous track. I raced motorcycles there for 4 years and just about every race I attended, some poor guy took a helicopter ride out! My favorite part was coming out of 11 and going WFO to turn 2 under the bridge that used to be there. I always HATED that off camber turn 2, always felt like I was going to crash there. Will, did you run the old course with the carousel ( if they still use it)or the "NASCAR" course? Did they put a chicane on the drag strip to slow down the entry to turn 1?
Mark
Mark:
I did alot of that myself! Any chance we'd know each other from that track?
but on topic: i'm interested in what kind of lap times you were seeing out there? I've done 1:44's out there on the superbike, and I'm curious what a car will do.
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:47 pm
by datsunrides
da-man wrote: I've done 1:44's out there on the superbike, and I'm curious what a car will do.