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DatsunWiki
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:27 pm
by nking79
I thought it might be interesting to look into replacing the tech section with a wiki script so that everyone can work together to create an online tech manual. Take a look at
www.mediawiki.org. I've never installed this script before, so I'm not sure how involved it is...
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:40 am
by shifty
That's a great idea. How hard is it to add something like that Steve?
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:32 am
by spl310
Steve sent me a note to say that he is on vacation, so he may not reply immediately.
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:36 am
by nking79
I'm not sure if MediaWiki is the best script I've seen. Other free scripts can be found at hotscripts.com. Examples of MediaWiki in use:
http://uncyclopedia.org
http://t.quadratus.ws
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:05 pm
by dbrick
spl310 wrote:Steve sent me a note to say that he is on vacation, so he may not reply immediately.
Wait, if he was on vacation and may not reply, how did he send you a note??? Sounds fishy to me. What's next, "Steve e-mailed me, his e-mail isn't working"?
Back on topic, the concept sounds good, but how easy is Wiki for the computer illiterate, like myself, and does it require alot of time to moderate, since it is able to be edited by everyone?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:46 am
by SLOroadster
I have no clue what that is. What would be nice is a way to directly upload pics rather than loading them somewhere else then linking to the other place. The other forum I post to on a regular basis allows 5 pics per post, and uploads directly from the computer.
Will
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:21 am
by ppeters914
Will,
If you're talking about the Alfa forum, their forum software isn't for free like this one. Same goes for the Bluebirds forum. In both cases, the owner(s) have decided to foot the bill for the benefit of the members.
In all fairness, Steve has tried implementing photo album features using Coppermine and what all. Again, these are freebies.
The other thing is that it's too easy for people to upload hurking huge pics that require more hard drive space.
Bottom line, pictures can become a major headache.
As for the Wiki, I dunno. Someone still has to review and edit it.
RE:DatsunWiki
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:11 pm
by S Allen
Yep, I am in the middle of no where and just got dial-up yesterday and boy is it sloooooow. I have seen a few wiki sites and they look to me sort of like a Blog. I am sure there is a blogging mod for php. Do we really need that? Dunno. As to pictures the problem really is the mega-pixel sized pics a digital camera produces. Without some sort of editing software like free GIMP for Windoze uploads can be painful and the pictures are not very web friendly. GIMP is easy for a computer geek like myself but there are many people that do not want to go through the hassles. Any way, I will look into it when I get back. Lot's of rain and thunderstorms in the mid-west right now. I am waiting for the sun to shine so we can go Morel mushroom hunting. Ok, bye for now.
Steve
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:24 pm
by spl310
Steve,
Enjoy the vacation. When you consider the photo thing, remember how speedy dialup is as there are some folks on the forum that still use that antiquated method...
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:32 pm
by Linda
Hey Steve,
Not sure how far out in the boonies you are, but you might want to look for free wireless hot spots. I use JWire for the Mac to check via zipcode. Whole Foods Markets have free wireless too. Maybe they will buy your mushrooms...the organic, legal ones
Linda
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:30 pm
by itsa68
I cant believe that Steve is keeping track of whats happening on the site when he is on holidays.
Thats devotion!
Morel mushrooms....are those the brown ones that look like they have holes in them like swiss cheese? mmmmm tasty
I prefer the chicken of the forest variety of mushroom (for those that know their shrooms).
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:12 pm
by nking79
Some wikis are more blog-like and I don't really see the point of that. Maybe I can set up a test site for a DatsunWiki so we can all see it in use.
As for images, it becomes difficult when people start uploading large images. Server space fills up quickly and bandwidth increases.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:17 am
by nking79
I put up a test wiki last night:
http://www.nkdsn.com/wiki/pmwiki.php
You can edit whatever you want. If you want to mess around there is a page called Sandbox on the lefthand menu. Editing instructions are linked on the lefthand menu as well. I haven't yet figured out images yet... but am working on it.
Re: DatsunWiki
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:19 pm
by ppeters914
nking79 wrote:I thought it might be interesting to look into replacing the tech section with a wiki script so that everyone can work together to create an online tech manual.
Before we rush off to reinvent the wheel, I have to ask why? What is wrong with the current Technical Info section? Yes, some of it needs updating and editing, but do we really need another online source? People already post questions that are already answered in the Tech Info.
Personally, I like that there are only two main online resources; the 311s.org website and the roadster mailing list. The 311s.org site lists all the other online resources. Steve has no problem adding if you find one that isn't there.
Yes, there's a lot of good info buried in the forums. Perhaps the best thing is to figure out what info needs to be added to the Tech Info section, then write new articles or modify the existing ones. You don't need to know HTML -- it's the content that counts. I am sure Steve wouldn't mind people contributing info.
Okay, that's my two centavos.

I relinquish the podium to the distinguished gentleman from....
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:35 pm
by nking79
I also like being able to search two places for information... Its easy to find information on the forums here and the team.net list through the search tools. The big thing with wiki is the ability for everyone to be able to edit/add pages, upload images (with a 50kb size limit).
Also, if I have questions about rebuilding brake calipers, all the information will be on one page instead of having to read through various posts.
The downfall, as you mention, is having a third resource to search through. Every resource has its ups and downs.