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Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:49 am
by Greaser2
Does anyone have or can measure the length of 5-speed drive shaft spline length? And is there a recommended distance of spline engagement (how far should the splines should be inserted). Mines' installed and being lazy about pulling it out to measure which is what I should have done prior.
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:44 pm
by jhayden
The full length of the splines (including taper) is about 13 cm. With the protective rubber sleeve installed, you should see about 10 mm between the cover tip and the inner limit of travel (fourth photo). The third photo shows the approximate normal riding position with and without the sleeve.
Above all, it is imperative that the FIVE "0" marks on the assembly be collinear (second photo) to prevent vibration from its being out of phase. When looking for the marks, a wire brush is essential: as the first photo shows, it is very common for the marks to be in slightly different locations on the components.
IMHO, a trip to the local drive shaft shop is still well worth the money.
Jon
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:49 pm
by Gregs672000
I've never had nor previously seen the rubber sleeve. Are they available and if so "worth" it?
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:12 am
by ADR
It's been said before, and deserves to be said again. What an amazing community of knowledgeable and helpful Roadster-heads.
Great post Jon / jhayden!
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:03 am
by Greaser2
I don't have the sleeve either, but I have 5 cm of splines exposed so that leaves 8cm engaged. I had the drive shaft lengthened to fit in my 411 SSS wagon.
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:05 am
by drieseck
I agree with ADR, nice work Jon for posting the description and photos.
Wondering Jon, if your advice to "visit the drive-shaft shop" is to have the assembly checked and/or rebalanced? I have my "O's in place but they came from different sources. Thanks Dave
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:22 am
by 23yrRebuild
+1 for rebalancing the driveshaft. I had that done when I balanced my stoker innards. It so runs smooooth !
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:07 pm
by jhayden
Gregs672000 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:49 pm
I've never had nor previously seen the rubber sleeve. Are they available and if so "worth" it?
Running w/o it shouldn't cause any issues, Greg -- you may be in the majority of SR/SRL owners! Besides, the circular nut with the felt-like washer (photo) keeps most of the grit out of the spline channels. With periodic cleaning and lubing the sleeve is likely redundant.
drieseck wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:05 am
Wondering Jon, if your advice to "visit the drive-shaft shop" is to have the assembly checked and/or rebalanced? I have my "O's in place but they came from different sources. Thanks Dave
As Mike mentions, the results from rebalancing with today's technology may pleasantly surprise you. Let us know!
Thank you to all for the kind comments, but please feel free to suggest revisions/corrections.
Jon
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:41 pm
by Gregs672000
Hmm, a balance sounds interesting...
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:04 am
by davdav2000
Me and a friend (Pat Collings) both went to to have our driveshafts balanced in Seattle at probably the best local shop, Drivelines Northwest. The shop told us that both of our drivelines had too much slop in the splines between the shaft and the yoke and therefore, could not be balanced. We brought in multiple spare yokes, but all failed the shop's acceptance. So, we had custom drivelines made, using drivelines from a "Legends" race car. They seem to be working well.
Re: Drive shaft spline length
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:11 am
by jhayden
Gregs672000 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:41 pm
Hmm, a balance sounds interesting...
Probably a good idea to do that prior to putting it on the Dyno as you are planning. As David mentions, the shop can also detect slop that might otherwise seem acceptable.
Jon