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Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:45 pm
by nismou20
So is it just me or anyone else have the issue of leaky oil pan? I’ve replaced cork gaskets several times over the years using Permatex aviation goo and torqued to specs but they all eventually leak on me. Anyone have a proven method that’s worked for you?

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:49 pm
by david premo
Where is it leaking, front, rear or side of the pan?

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:10 pm
by Habitat.pat
I replied but I don’t think it went through.

Is the leak in your the same location each time? If so, it could be a warped pan.

If I remember correctly aviation Permatex is Permatex #3 which is intended for machined metal to metal joints. Permatex #2 is intended for gaskets.

Peace,
Pat

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:28 pm
by nismou20
It seems to come from the frontal area but oil seems to wick up the 10 mm bolts to top lip of block too. Just never dry for me. I R/R the oil and installed new gasket with Permatex and waited 2 days before starting. No oil on lower front timing cover ahead of pan.

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:30 pm
by nismou20
Think the Right Stuff might be worth a try? I’ve been using Permatex Form A Gasket #80019

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:25 pm
by david premo
The best way to find your leak is to thoroughly clean the engine get all the oil and grease off and while it is dry put talcum powder on all the engine areas that could potentially leak and then run it. Fluids don’t run upwards so start looking at the bottom and move up the engine. Many times people mistake the origins of the leak. Good luck.
Dave

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:05 am
by redroadster
Try silicone for this , every car had this problem at some point before they went to silicone
How much blowby is there?
Front case will drip down , rear seal ?

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:12 am
by keith0alan
My preferred method for the valve cover and oil pan gaskets is to use "yellow death" weather strip adhesive and glue the gasket to the pan or cover. Then a thin coat of Permatex ultra blue between the gasket and engine. The gasket is permanently attached to the part and will not move around. Also the pan/cover can be removed and reinstalled several times without destroying the gasket.

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:55 am
by bakerjf
Oddly enough, just pulled my comp pan after about five years (no leaks). I was turned on to the black Toyota RTV by JT and obviously it worked. However, a heads-up - it was a bitch/impossible to get the pan off in 40-ish weather. I finally used a heat gun to warm things up. After that, it came off “normally.” I presume it gets very hard when it’s cold…

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:18 pm
by redroadster
It's not cork ,it's cork particles molded in rubber
and oil swells rubber. But newer engine that use RTV seals both mating surfaces have a recessed trough ,not flat

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:25 pm
by Daryl Smith
Irrelephant

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:14 pm
by nismou20
Appreciate all the suggestions, will try the Right stuff without the gasket as it worked for Daryl. Thanks,

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:26 pm
by Gregs672000
I can vouch for the Toyota or equivalent sealant.

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:19 pm
by JT68
bakerjf wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:55 am Oddly enough, just pulled my comp pan after about five years (no leaks). I was turned on to the black Toyota RTV by JT and obviously it worked. However, a heads-up - it was a bitch/impossible to get the pan off in 40-ish weather. I finally used a heat gun to warm things up. After that, it came off “normally.” I presume it gets very hard when it’s cold…
Yep, the Toyota FIPG is bullet proof. Most of the 2JZ and other Toyota engines are assembled with it.

Permatex Ultra black is really good as well and available everywhere.

AV cement would be a poor choice for this application-Not sure who suggested that??

Success has nothing to do with the cork material and (like lots of roadster gaskets) is more about attention to detail and technique. Refer to SpongeBob.

As John mentioned, if you want it sealed up permanently, coat both sides of the gasket. If you want it easily removable, (but probably will ooze a little) coat just one side if the gasket. j

Re: Oil pan gasket (Cork)

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:32 pm
by nismou20
Ok, so the Toyota RTV is applied metal to metal ? No need for gasket?