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Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:01 pm
by Alvin
I suffer from severe "deferred maintenance" when it comes to my roadster. The Hankook R-S3 tires I have been running were almost down the cords yet I still continued to drive on them...in wet conditions.
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After driving a 240z with Toyo RA-1s I was sold, but they don't make a 205/45/16 size. I did not want to run the R888(R) or similar semi-slick on the street and ended up getting the Toyo R1R.
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Here are the old Hankooks next to the fresh Toyo's. The Hankooks served me well with about 9,200 miles of driving.
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I've only had the R1Rs for two weeks, but my quick blasts up in the canyons left me smiling.
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There are few track days scheduled in 2021 I'm excited to see how they feel.

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:44 pm
by RBMann
Don't worry about your deferred maintenance. When you say down to the cord, the two used ones look like you aren't down to the wear bars yet.
The problem I have on my non-Datsun is the rubber getting hard with age. At seven years old with my 225/50-18s in the rain, I started spinning the tires leaving stops even though they have 50% tread left. Guess I have to drive more or buy more.

I do love the feel of new tires.

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:56 pm
by Matthew 69-2000
Very cool, Alvin. I may add these to my tire shortlist. I've been looking at Continental ExtremeContact Sport in a 205/50/15 and also considering the Pirelli Cinturato line of classic tires from Lucas Classic Tires. With my stock 2000 I kind of like the period style tire compared to the more modern, square lipped summer tires. 

In any case, the Toyos look great. New tire day is always fun.

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:52 pm
by eye
How "hard" is it to turn the steering wheel when slow?

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:34 pm
by Alvin
eye wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:52 pm How "hard" is it to turn the steering wheel when slow?
Great question. Short answer: not hard at all.

Not something I've thought about in my roadster, but since I have Sora next to it in the garage I thought why not see for myself.

Sora has a stock steering wheel and 185/70/14 tires/stock wheels.

The 205/45/16 tires with my 350mm Momo steering wheel requires 10% more effort than Sora while sitting still.
Not the best comparison I know.

I will say this: I've never considered or found the need for power steering in this car. The S30/240z cars with larger wheel/tires (like 225/50/16) absolutely benefit from power steering at low speed.

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:01 am
by eye
Thanks for the reply. Running the same tires and haven't had "Pearl" out yet. It just seems a little hard to turn sitting in garage. Can always go to a larger steering wheel if needed.
Thanks again

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:07 pm
by todd lorber
The S30/240z cars with larger wheel/tires (like 225/50/16) absolutely benefit from power steering at low speed.
240Z's don't have power steering. Only vacuum assist brakes. But they do have rack & pinion steering which provides a different feel than the steering box. I run 205's on my Z, and as long as tire pressure is above 33lbs the steering is fine. Below that it is a bit heavy at slow or no speed. My steering wheel on that car is a MOMO Race, so smaller diameter than stock.

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:09 pm
by Alvin
todd lorber wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:07 pm [quoteThe S30/240z cars with larger wheel/tires (like 225/50/16) absolutely benefit from power steering at low speed.]
240Z's don't have power steering. Only vacuum assist brakes. But they do have rack & pinion steering which provides a different feel than the steering box. I run 205's on my Z, and as long as tire pressure is above 33lbs the steering is fine. Below that it is a bit heavy at slow or no speed. My steering wheel on that car is a MOMO Race, so smaller diameter than stock.
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Yes. You can add electric power steering to the S30 with aftermarket kits. With 225s and larger it really helps.
But I'm scrawny anyway :mrgreen:

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:05 am
by buenavides1
Your car looks amazing, it seems like it is well-maintained.

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:15 am
by eye
What alignment specs are you running?

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:32 am
by Alvin
eye wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:15 am What alignment specs are you running?
Joe, I need to dig it up, but iirc it's -1.75 camber, 0 toe, +1.5 caster

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:48 am
by eye
Thanks

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:54 pm
by Alvin
Happy with the R1R tires. Wore the nubs off with a few quick mountain runs
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Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:50 pm
by eye
Been putting some miles on mine too. Stick like glue. 205' fronts and 225 rears. Still waiting on my alignment. All he good shops are swamped.

Re: Tires: Toyo R1R

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 6:14 pm
by redroadster68
Alvin do you ever scrape tire on fender lip over compression bumps or hard cornering. Not a lot of clearance in pics . Thanks