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lowered front spring seats

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I am retired and have little money to spend on my 70 roadster but I do have lots of time. I had the roadster up on my lift yesterday looking at the front spring seats to see if I could lower them myself and how much trouble it would be. Looks to me that the 4 bolts securing said seat could be removed so the seat could be removed, then have, say, 1" individual ears or a continuous lip welded with new holes to drop the seat down at exactly the same angle and everything thus achieving a lowered front end.

Any thoughts? seems like it would be relatively easy.

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Sounds reasonable to me. You could leave the original holes so that it could be returned to stock if desired.
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I would go with a continuous lip, which would perform better as a shear web.
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A thread on making the perches:
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Shear web for the win!
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I think I'll do it this winter. Will post pics of my method.
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Rob Hewitson in Australia did that to a 67 2000 years ago. He had a website with pictures but it is gone.
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I had forgotten that I got a bunch of parts when I bought my roadster. Turns out I have two each lower control arms complete so will be able to use the spring seats off of them to modify for this project.
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I have to ask why that method? You can buy affordable after market
springs which drop the car 1-1.5” that simply drop in. They have increased spring rate and also improve ride stability.

If you drop it much more than that an use stock springs, the lower a-arm will hit the tie rods
on hard bumps. (Not a good thing) Then you need heim joints. If you don’t do all this correctly, you really mess-up the suspension geometry.
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OK. My method costs me nothing, that is the reason for doing it at all. You make a good point, and I am glad you did. I won't do it then. If I win the lottery (which I don't play) I'll come to you for the springs/bilsteins.
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Springs themselves are not too expensive and accomplish the lowering objective easily without any disadvantages even if Bil’s are not in the current budget. WAY easier method.

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Or you have this option (not lowering as such, but improving the ride)

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Thank you CSP311! His mod really shows that small changes in things make big differences. I found this out on my VG powered 510 when playing with spring lengths for the rear end. Good info.
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