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Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:06 pm
by Linda
I'm talking disassembly. People ought to know to thoroughly clean before assembly and use the grease with the seals. If they don't they probably shouldn't be working on it.
That’s the idea of the write-up , teaching, in my opinion.
Linda
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:04 am
by DAC21
The Caliper repair kit Curtis mentioned being available at Rockauto is found only under 1970, 2000 Roadster even though it is used for all 1967 and up models. Nice price of $9.38 per side, but if the photo of the kit is accurate it does not come with retaining rings, teeth washers, bleeder boots and grease like the Nissan kit. I have no R&R experience (yet) on these brakes, so I don't know if the old retaining rings will come off clean for reuse which would be the biggest concern with buying this kit. The individual retaining rings p/n 41135-73400 appears discontinued outside of the Nissan kit. I found the Nissan kit online for $50 delivered. $23 delivered for Rockauto to Cali inc tax and shipping.
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:05 am
by Curtis
I don't want to get in to all the small details on this. If I write up how to assemble and some things in it and something goes wrong then guess who gets the blame. If all that gets added then my name comes off. A search of the web will turn up some videos for most of that.
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:06 pm
by Steve_69
Nice write up Thanks! I just pulled apart a set of spare calipers and the cylinders are pretty nasty. Is there someone who sleeves them on this site? I scrolled through the vendors list and did not find anything. Thanks ahead of time.
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:35 pm
by notoptoy
In your neck of the woods, I think Apple Hydraulics out of NY is closest.
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:12 pm
by MattC
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:34 pm
by notoptoy
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:57 am
by Steve_69
Yep. Thanks. I looked up Apple Hydraulics and will probably send them my spare set. It appears that they know what they are doing.
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:54 am
by DAC21
Apple Brake cylinders prices are based on brass sleeves which is saving $15 or so per cylinder over SS? A little research shows Brass vs SS is a bit of a tomato / tomoto situation. Seems pretty reasonable especially if you do your own rebuild. Even with two way shipping I'd think you would be about $380 all in with new sleeves and buying your own rebuild kit.
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:49 am
by C.Costine
DAC21 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:04 am
The Caliper repair kit Curtis mentioned being available at Rockauto is found only under 1970, 2000 Roadster even though it is used for all 1967 and up models. Nice price of $9.38 per side, but if the photo of the kit is accurate it does not come with retaining rings, teeth washers, bleeder boots and grease like the Nissan kit. I have no R&R experience (yet) on these brakes, so I don't know if the old retaining rings will come off clean for reuse which would be the biggest concern with buying this kit. The individual retaining rings p/n 41135-73400 appears discontinued outside of the Nissan kit. I found the Nissan kit online for $50 delivered. $23 delivered for Rockauto to Cali inc tax and shipping.
DAC21, for what it's worth I pulled a very nasty set of front cylinders apart a couple years ago and those rings were in surprisingly good condition.
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:09 am
by Linda
Apple notes that the cylinder sleeving can also be done in SS for extra cost, which I did not know. Always thought they did brass only.
Carb and parts offering is nice too.
Nice to see they are still around, especially for the East Coast. To me this is a no brainer for brake cylinder maintainence.
I also noted the cylinder rubber retainer rings were fine on my rebuild. I used Evapo Rust first then cleaned and sprayed Rust Reformer.
Linda
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:27 pm
by DAC21
Boy that pin had the snot bent out of it on this Apple photo. Also a question on the early 1600 Master Cylinder. It has a 90 degree turn where the Brake line fitting comes in. Can that MS be re-sleeved with that turn in the casting? Or does that portion of the cylinder not matter (re-sleeving) as long as it isn't rusted out since there is no piston travel in that section?
https://www.applehydraulicsonline.com/c ... 3686839399
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:30 pm
by notoptoy
That pin is not bent, it is a floating ball/socket end.
That cylinder can be re-sleeved no problem, and in fact it already has been with the brass as you can see on close inspection.
Re: Front Brake Cylinder Write Up
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:32 pm
by DAC21
notoptoy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:30 pm
That pin is not bent, it is a floating ball/socket end.
That cylinder can be resleeved no problem.
Thanks, I had not heard about the floating pin before. But I'm not following you on the re-sleeving, it was in reference (I changed the subject to an early Master Cylinder) to the right angle on the early 1600 Brake MS.