Question on Timing an R16 for Initial Running??
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:28 pm
I have been trying to get a Pre-smog motor 1600 running properly. I have resolved associated electrical connections and ignition parts but stil inop.
Here is where I am to date.
Pulled all the old plugs and spun over motor to clear out fuel/starter fluid. In case possible flooded condition. I then put in new plugs and got it to run. Rough though and backfiring out of the carbs continually. I then shut off motor and looked at it possibly being out of time.
So I found TDC on #1 on Compression stroke, pulled dizzy cap and rotor was pointing to near #4 cylinder. I then installed #1 plug wire and then the rest of wires (1342) going clockwise. Motor would not start. I then installed wires the same from #1 wire being in cap at #4 cylinder orientation BUT installed wires going counter clockwise. Still no starting.
In addition to finding #1 TDC I also pulled valve cover and confirmed both valves were closed on #1 (visible play in rocker arms on both #1 valves, were other cylinder were tight). Second time, at #1 TDC, I lined up the timing notches on crank pulley to first notch which would be zero. Rotor still pointing at #4 cylinder.
Should I check with Timing pointer at 16 instead of 0? By checking at 0 am I trying this with engine 180 degrees out of time?
The car ran great prior to all this misfiring, weeks ago. Should I need to try moving the dizzy to advance or retard while trying to start at this point?
Car is a points ignition system setup. All parts in system are new.
Here is where I am to date.
Pulled all the old plugs and spun over motor to clear out fuel/starter fluid. In case possible flooded condition. I then put in new plugs and got it to run. Rough though and backfiring out of the carbs continually. I then shut off motor and looked at it possibly being out of time.
So I found TDC on #1 on Compression stroke, pulled dizzy cap and rotor was pointing to near #4 cylinder. I then installed #1 plug wire and then the rest of wires (1342) going clockwise. Motor would not start. I then installed wires the same from #1 wire being in cap at #4 cylinder orientation BUT installed wires going counter clockwise. Still no starting.
In addition to finding #1 TDC I also pulled valve cover and confirmed both valves were closed on #1 (visible play in rocker arms on both #1 valves, were other cylinder were tight). Second time, at #1 TDC, I lined up the timing notches on crank pulley to first notch which would be zero. Rotor still pointing at #4 cylinder.
Should I check with Timing pointer at 16 instead of 0? By checking at 0 am I trying this with engine 180 degrees out of time?
The car ran great prior to all this misfiring, weeks ago. Should I need to try moving the dizzy to advance or retard while trying to start at this point?
Car is a points ignition system setup. All parts in system are new.