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Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 8:15 pm
by 2mAn
Since my motor is coming out I figure it’s time to put the correct speedo gear in. I’ve had this gear from mikeb for quite a while and after having another gear to compare it with I’m worried it’s more difficult than I had hoped.

Can anyone tell me what’s required to correct my speedo? I had a 3.7 rear end and have a 4.38 in there now.

The larger gear is the one I have, and I’m not sure which gear is the smaller one but the size difference worries me

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Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 8:49 pm
by jrusso07
Sorry I cant answer your question directly. I know the speedo drive gear color changes with the number of teeth. From Dean's site, "each tooth on a speedometer pinion gear represents 5 miles per hour. If the speedometer is running too high you need to get a gear with more teeth to slow it down.
If the speedometer is running too slow you need to get a gear with less teeth to speed it up".

Thanks to a forum member, I learned that the gear diameter increases with the number of teeth on the gear

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 9:04 am
by mraitch

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 9:33 am
by Gregs672000
From my understanding the large orange one needs some kind of adapter which I was not able to locate. So mine sits on the bench, useless, and I estimate mph from my tach after driving along with a cell phone speedo app.

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 8:57 pm
by 2mAn
The wiki doesn’t show anything more than part numbers.

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 9:14 pm
by Gregs672000
I asked Dean about it, and that's what he told me. I don't think there's a way to run it otherwise... and why I just do an educated guess by rpm and cell phone app!

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 10:30 pm
by theunz
The wiki does show two different sleeves, each for a certain range of teeth. Years ago when I installed my 4:62’s I bought the gear recommended by the dealer and put it in. It immediately mangled the teeth and I parked the car shortly after that, so I think that you do need to change sleeves if you stray to far from stock. I bought a used GPS from eBay for $15 that I now use for a speedometer and to track mileage. Someday I’d like to convert my stock speedo to GPS, but I’m guessing that’s pretty pricey!

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 2:54 pm
by mikeb
Simon - Just saw your post...I sent you the carrier (or sleeve) that is the correct one to use for the orange speedo pinion. Use that and it will fit like a glove.

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 3:07 pm
by 2mAn
mikeb wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 2:54 pm Simon - Just saw your post...I sent you the carrier (or sleeve) that is the correct one to use for the orange speedo pinion. Use that and it will fit like a glove.
Theres a sleeve in there too?! I didnt see it, but I also wasnt expecting to see anything else in there

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 3:16 pm
by Gregs672000
mikeb wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 2:54 pm Simon - Just saw your post...I sent you the carrier (or sleeve) that is the correct one to use for the orange speedo pinion. Use that and it will fit like a glove.
Well, if that's the case, where does one get this elusive sleeve!? :)

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 3:27 pm
by 2mAn
Gregs672000 wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 3:16 pm
mikeb wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 2:54 pm Simon - Just saw your post...I sent you the carrier (or sleeve) that is the correct one to use for the orange speedo pinion. Use that and it will fit like a glove.
Well, if that's the case, where does one get this elusive sleeve!? :)
and to piggyback on that, how difficult is it to install? Looks like at least part of the transmission needs to come apart :cry:

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 5:55 pm
by mikeb
Simon,

I looked at the picture you posted and it looks like both pinions are already installed in the carriers. There's no disassembly of the transmission required. There's a hole in the passenger side of the transmission where the speedo pinion assembly slides into and engages a gear inside the transmission. The assembly is secured by a small tab and a short 6 mm bolt. The threaded portion of the carrier left exposed after installation
is where the speedometer cable is attached. I hope that helps.

Mike

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 11:36 am
by Gregs672000
Simon, can you post a pic of the sleeve when you get It please? Thanks!

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:10 pm
by mraitch
Carrier/pinion sets are available from Nissan P/N 32702-58SXX - where xx is the number of teeth.

Re: Changing the Speedo gear?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 9:59 pm
by zippy67roadster
mraitch wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 1:10 pm Carrier/pinion sets are available from Nissan P/N 32702-58SXX - where xx is the number of teeth.
The 5 speed one as well as the 16 tooth 4 speed ones are all gone from Nissan. You might be able to find a few 17 tooth ones that were for the early trucks but your speedo will be off. I know Dean sells the 5 speed ones and the 17 tooth one to use for the 4 speeds. I am looking to have new correct 16 tooth ones made for the 4 speeds.