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vacuum line(s)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:07 am
by 70MTRoadster
OK, so am about to transplant the U20 into the my 70 1600. My question is do I run vacuum from the front carb over the top of the valve cover to the distributor vacuum advance? Does anyone use the funky what'sit on the thermostat housing with its 3 barbs? I'm guessing it was for smog stuff. I've owned 2 each 2000's and worked on them all the time back in the 70's but 50 years has dulled my memory and about everything else too.

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:18 am
by jrusso07
Yes on the vacuum line routing - one of my cars has a clip that goes under rear cam cover nut that the line routes through...not sure if it is stock but it keeps it looking tidy. I don't use the funky thingy on the t-housing. Not sure what it is...I assume some type of temp sensor that opens a vacuum line to some emission thingy that I don't have...maybe the air pump system. I have replaced them on all my 2000s with pipe thread cap (square drive cap) because I thought the funky thing looked too funky for my style.

I added a pic of the t-housing with the cap installed (not my car)

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:27 am
by MattC
And another reference...here is mine with the vacuum line over top through a small clip on the valve cover nut.
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Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:48 am
by 70MTRoadster
Thanks! Always nice to get an answer quickly here. I will pull the funky part and plug as you have done.

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:38 pm
by spl310
The funky part helps keep the car from overheating

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:07 pm
by jrusso07
spl310 wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:38 pm The funky part helps keep the car from overheating
Tell us more...?

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:01 pm
by spl310
It has been a long time since I read about it. Basically it retards the timing if the engine starts to overheat, iirc

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:59 pm
by david premo
That would be backwards. The thermo switching valve advances the time to cool the engine. So it has three ports D C & M, distributor, carburetor, and manifold. At idle with the timing retarded combustion temperatures rise and more complete combustion occurs. A fan clutch and thermo vacuum switch are used to prevent the engine from overheating. As temperatures reach about 210 degrees Fahrenheit two things occur, the fan clutch engages and and the thermo vacuum switch changes from carburetor vacuum to manifold vacuum which are inverse to each other and advances the timing. As the fan kicks in and the vacuum switch’s it quickly cools the engine back to about 185 degrees and reverts to carburetor vacuum. This is why engines with the smog distributor run so hot when you get rid of the thermo valve. Basically a smog distributor without the thermo switching valve is a grenade with the pin pulled waiting to explode.
Dave

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:40 am
by spl310
Thanks. As I said, it's been a while. Since I only have nonsmog cars, I don't have it

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:51 am
by jrusso07
Thank you Dave, I’m glad I am running non-smog distributors!

Re: vacuum line(s)

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:05 pm
by Gregs672000
Best explanation I've seen. I'm with Joe, glad I don't have to worry about it. As I understand it, Nissan went to great lengths to try to keep the U20 emissions compliant with this system.
I know people have complained about how much emission controls killed power, and in the beginning they did kill off many engines. It's truly amazing how much power modern engines can make while still being so much cleaner than even 10 years ago. Hats off to all those engineers out there who attacked this problem.