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JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:19 pm
by JagerTex
The time has come to start my build thread. Having just acquired my 1600, ideas are flooding through me - and reality is beginning to set in. This project will be considerably long term. The main motivation is to get her on the road (and keep her there) as quick as possible - and then to piecemeal my restoration. Every week will be focused on small parts (rather than taking the whole thing to bits all at once). This way, she should only be down for a couple days at a time and I get to enjoy driving!

This is a smiles-per-gallon project. I doubt very much this will ever be a show worthy car, though I intend to make it cohesive, durable, and as pretty as my abilities allow. Likely (2-4 years down the road), there will be a SR20/5speed swap. I intend to perserve the spirit of the car, and am not after a purist-OEM spec restoration.

Depending on price and availabity, I may look into a rear subframe swap around that time. IRS, LSD and more readily available gearing options would be most welcome. (I previously cobbled together an absolutely fantastic Frankenstein rear axle for a previous 280z project... 408ci LQ4 + 4l80e trans going back to a Ford 8.8 IRS out of a mountaineer... Other than shaving the axle down, I wound up with stronger, cheaper, off the shelf parts.

Many things are in better shape than I expected, some are worse. Thankfully, nothing structrual appears to be in dire need, surprisingly, seats, carpet, door cards and dash are in pretty great condition.

Trunk, floor boards, inner fenders/rockers and inner doors have at most some light surface rust (with two small spots showing scale, though that may simoly be dirty heatshield flaking up). Coming soon: wirewheel, metal prep and POR15! (Probably some dry ice, gasket/paint scrapers, bruised knuckles and cussin' too). Depending on how patient I am (or not), I might just bust out an old towel and a halogen lamp.

The chrome leaves something to be desired... As does most of the weather striping. Would refinishing all of the chrome in a black chrome powdercoat (or the mercedes satin-black-gold) be anathema? The car will eventually be refinished in a dark gray, dark metallic or possibly even a deep root beer brown metallic. Im aiming for a subdued/classy finish (i.e. deep gloss and muted color) and have never been a huge fan of chrome paired with most colors (save for say, dark blue)

Also factored into all of this... I spend time over money where I can. If I can make it look good, function correctly, and perhaps improve over original bits... Ill be far happier than shelling out stacks of cash and have a sense of accomplishment to boot.

Pictures to come in the next post!

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:07 pm
by JagerTex
Busy first week with the new project!

Still deciding on a name, but so far:
Wednesday - departed Houston at 8am, arrived in Charlotte, NC at 3am.
Thursday - picked up Uhaul at 8am, loaded the 1600 up at 9 and left for Houston. Arrived at 330am.
Friday - unload car, return trailer and immediately head in for a closing shift at wotk
Saturday - Opening shift at work

And Sunday (today) - removed portion of fence, and managed to wrangle the 1600 onto the back patio. Privacy, access to power and tools, and covered space to work with even ground! (Not to mention the beer fridge is back here.
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Thanks to my better half, we managed to move her and make the hairpin turn without major incident! Even got the fence reinatalled before sundown. Just dont mention that part to my landlord ;)

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:52 pm
by fj20spl311
mgb silvia rear axle.jpg

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:13 am
by JagerTex
*drool*

... Picture says mgb silvia rear axle?

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:37 am
by jamesw
Blacked out chrome on these cars looks terrible. If you're looking for a low cost stop-gap until you get get better chrome then get it satin chrome color powder coated.

Cheers
James

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:39 am
by Pjackb
jamesw wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:37 am Blacked out chrome on these cars looks terrible. If you're looking for a low cost stop-gap until you get get better chrome then get it satin chrome color powder coated.

Cheers
James
Agreed ,
but if you’re going to do it at least do it right , here’s an example of blacked out chrome with boat side trims that turned out not too bad
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Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:24 am
by 2mAn
All I can say is that Im impressed with how quickly you were able to go and get the car and be back at work! crazy

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:32 am
by fj20spl311
JagerTex wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:13 am *drool*

... Picture says mgb silvia rear axle?
Just posting for a Idea of what can be done without replacing the rear clip.

The silvia diff can be replaced with a 8.8, but they are strong enough for a SR20DET in a light car.

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:05 pm
by JagerTex
Pjackb wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:39 am
jamesw wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:37 am Blacked out chrome on these cars looks terrible. If you're looking for a low cost stop-gap until you get get better chrome then get it satin chrome color powder coated.

Cheers
James
Agreed ,
but if you’re going to do it at least do it right , here’s an example of blacked out chrome with boat side trims that turned out not too bad

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Was aiming for black chrome powder coat -- not blacked out chrome.
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Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:08 pm
by JagerTex
2mAn wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:24 am All I can say is that Im impressed with how quickly you were able to go and get the car and be back at work! crazy
I love driving... ;)

Long distance hauls are one of my stronger skillsets. Personal best (solo) with a dog and trailer was 35hrs and change door-to-door from south Houston to Seattle, WA.

Can't wait to do HTX to Santa Barbara... Ill just have to make sure my next trip to visit my brother is during Slovang.

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:42 am
by JagerTex
She lives!!!

Now for fluid changes and a thorough inspection of hydraulic systems. I never thought Od get her up and going so quick.😁😁😁

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:53 am
by datsun65
Let's see the video!

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:34 pm
by spriso
Glad to see you on here JagerTex! Looking forward to seeing your progress on this conversion!

Michael

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:08 pm
by JagerTex
Swap is a long way down the line. Right now im just working to get her roadworthy and make sure she doesnt rot put from under me, which beings me to...

Today! (WED MAR 14)
Finally setting up a work area.
Removed the soft top frame, and assoc. Hardware (including rivets and boot snaps)
Removed entire interior and tackling OE sound deadener in preparation for some quality time with a wire cup and angle grinder. Hoping to have the POR15 knocked out by friday next week.

Enter>first major sin of the PO. I mean, really, who tf uses FIBERGLASS to repair a hole in the passenger floorboard (especially when youre willing to go through the trouble of making it look "correct"?! Thankfully most of the floor pans are extremely solid. i was expecting far more deep rooted rot. Also thankfully, the fiberglass mess is in a flat spot, so repair will be relatively cheap and simple.

Besides... Now I have an excuse to replace the qelder I sold before my move to TX. >:)

Back to work!

Re: JagerTex's '67 1600

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:30 am
by JagerTex
Well, in the last week, I have...

- Stripped put the entire interior (and started taking notes for what will be used and replaced)
- wirewheeled the heck out of it down to bare metal (save for some of the floorboard valleys under the reinforcement strip... Those got some serious attention with a brass brish and 3000rpm on a drill)
- scuffed, degreased, etched and applied por15.

Mercifully, other than the POs ill-advised fiberglass patch, I only discovered 2 or 3 small pinholes, requiring patches that will be leas than 2 square inches. For a 50 year old car with original everything, Im calling that a major win!

Tackling the trunk and a couple nooks and crannies I missed under the dash today, and keeping my eyes out forna cheap, but serviceable, 110V wirefeed MIG. Also thankfully... Every eelding repair Ive been able to identify as necessary will be invisible when reassembled... So at this point, it doesnt matter much to me if its flux, shielded, or tig'd, so long as it holds. Por15, patience and some seam sealer should make the repairs last as long as the rest of her.
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Some wirewheeling started, but basically, here's ground zero!
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Cue: Outkast - so fresh, so clean.