67.5 2000 Roadster Guide

[cole455]

Exterior.





side trim

license plate trim





wheels
tires
mirror
ID plate.
135 or 150 HP
fog lights


Headlight Buckets




Interior






gauges


shift plate



door hardware
dash mirror
headrests
visors and hardware.
ignition switch
seats.
top latches

Engine room







Hitachi carbs


Mikuni carbs

fan blades
fan pulley.
fan shroud.
fuel line routing

hoses
clamps
head
cam cover


Mikuni air cleaner

washer bag

alternator
fuel filter
voltage regulator
battery cables
choke cable

Nice pics!

The beige gray metallic 67.5--is that Bob Moranda's old car? I always wondered what happened to it when he passed away...

[bakerjf]

Does Mike Young's silver car have the front competition springs? I love that car and the way it sits.

[gmagana]

Alvin, thanks for the pictures and Jon, thanks for the gauge info!

[msampsel]

Both gauges on car 195 have silver pointers

On car 225 with both silver and black pointers , I have both speedo and tac out of car to check for " date of manufacture "
My speedo has a stamp with the number 22067 , which could be read as Feb 20 1967 . My tac has the number 02C27 . This number can not be read as a date
Is there another stamp that I am missing ? Could these numbers be the technicians ID number who " qualified " that the gauges
We're accurate in both speed and rpm ?

Both gauges are stamped with Chinese lettering that says " Qualified " in English . I was surprised when my wife who is from China told it was Chinese writing . I'm trying to see if the writing could be the same in Japanese but no luck so far on Goggle
Maybe one of our members can read Japanese and help us with this

The numbers on the back of the speedo's and tachometers are the date but are read Day/Month/year so your speedo was actually made on the 22nd of June 1967 which makes it one of the latest units I have seen. Your tach was made on Feb 02 1967 (I believe that "C" is actually a zero with a scratch) so I would bet your tach is the one with the satin chrome pointer and your speedo has the pointer painted black. Incidentally, your tach was made on the same day as the one in my #00003 car which would make sense because I believe you said you had an early car too? Kevin Desirello is restoring car #00233 and the tach in that car is 10027 so it was manufactured 8 days after ours which sounds about right. I'm pretty sure that Nissan didn't let any cars go with two different gauges and in your case I would guess the reason for the mismatched pointers would be that your PO had a speedo failure so he picked up whatever the dealer had in stock at the time which would most likely have been the newer version with the black dot. I have been putting a list together of instrument date codes that came from cars which I am 99% certain were unmolested and so far all of them have had serial numbers on the tach's and speedo's that either matched or are just a couple of days apart. A good example would be my #00003 car which has a tachometer with #02027 and a speedo with 04027 which puts them 2 days apart. An interesting side note is that my #00489 car has a tachometer with #29037 and David Premo's car which is #00406 has a speedo with exactly the same number. Two instruments born on the same day but installed in cars that were 83 digits apart.

Anyone else dizzy yet?

I'll post more later when I get it all together.

Jon

Hey this Dizziness drill is great! Hope you all can forgive me adding on to the artists post!

I was going to suggest the speedometers in the roadster are most likely to defect (trip-mileage wheels, or needle) and hence if
any of the two were black it would most likely be the speedo. The pictures herein seem to bear out my humble hypothesis.

I know my original speedo (120 mph) defected and well I got the 160 mph, and the tach was fine but because my engine
red lines at 8000 I needed the 8000 tach and bought it too. Thinking it was 60 bucks or so new in 73 but ... this was a long time ago

when I was young and who needs any stinking receipts?

[gmagana]

One of the big things about the 67.5 is that there are many unique parts to the vehicle. Among them are the windshield trim clip, Windshield wiper arms, Washer Nozzles, door mirror and rear view mirror.

The 67.5 has a wider clip for the under Windshield frame weatherstrip at the lower corners. In the 67.5 cars it is wider than the previous versions finish is chrome of course, in addition the Washer nozzle is larger than previous versions and is only found on the 67.5 cars, the finish is satin chrome on this item:

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The earlier cars had the thin clip with a chrome finish, and a smaller washer nozzle:

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The rear view mirror had 2 variations, stock and a dealer option day night
Stock Mirror:

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Day Night Mirror:

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Wiper arms: Wiper arms are satin in finish, they are not polished. The big difference is the wiper arm has 2 rivets in the arm vs the earleir style which has only one rivet, in addition there were several versions of the earlier wiper arm so this may not be true for all early cars:
Early wiper arm:

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67.5 Wiper arm: (Studio Warner Photo)

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Early Door Mirror, unfortunatley this is the best pic I have. It would also mount on the fender on some earlier cars:

earlymirror.jpg

67.5 door mirror:

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What we see most nowadays in the 67.5 cars are either one or a combination of 2 or all of these items are missing, this trim is important for a 67.5 car, here is an example of a car with some of the missing items, lets see if you can spot them:

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Hope this helps and adds to the tech wiki for this page

[ted heaton]

Thanks to all who have contributed data for the guide.
I will take what we have collected and create the first draft of the Guide for the WIKI.
There is more to add and all sections of the guide will need to be reviewed for accuracy.

Ted.

[gmagana]

Datsun 67.5 2000 frame vs 68-70 2000 Frame:

One other difference not discussed is the extra gusset in the sheet metal in the frame which is found on later cars but not on a 67.5 2000. The 67 2000 shared the same frame as the 1600, in Model year 68 2 differences appeared on the frame. For this post we will discuss the first difference on the Frame which is the addition of gussets to the 68-70 frames. These were plates that were welded to add strength to the 68 2000 and were located posterior to the downward slope of the frame on the bottom side. This added strength to the frame in that area.

67.5 2000 frame prior to gussets being added to frame :

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68-70 2000: picture coming soon

[spl310]

That was part of the safety regulations. The 68 and later frames also have holes drilled in them forward of the suspension to make a crumple zone.

[spl310]

A couple of other things. The 67.5 brought the inclusion of the torque strut. There was a service bulletin because the mount proved insufficient. There was also a sheet metal "strap" to support the ling heater his below the master cylinder. This is commonly missing.

[msampsel]

A couple of other things. The 67.5 brought the inclusion of the torque strut. There was a service bulletin because the mount proved insufficient. There was also a sheet metal "strap" to support the ling heater his below the master cylinder. This is commonly missing.

Is the torque strut and what I call the traction bar the same?
I've a traction bar from my '68 frame ...

[msampsel]

Is the trim around the shift plate boot (stainless?) 67.5 or did 67's have em, never saw one on mine.

See trim on pic below

[spl310]

Yes, the torque strut is what you are calling a traction bar.

The trim as you refer to it was actually a retaining plate that was used to sandwich the shift boots to the bottom of the shift plate. Many cars didn't come with them, and a lot of people like using them as a trim plate as in the picture.

[ted heaton]

The first draft of the 67.5 2000 Guide is ready for review. Link is at the bottom of this post
It is currently a WORD document on my OneDrive storage. The page layout and spacing needs improvement.
I would like all who have contributed, and all 311s members, to review it for accuracy.
We need to have errors identified so this Guide will be useful.
I have used photos of my 67 2000 for illustration.
I will replace some with the better pictures submitted.
If you have better pictures (at least 500 KB) post them to this thread.
I need photos for some of the sections and there are sections that need info or need expanding.
Please contribute to any section of the Guide.
The Definitions and Discussion section needs completing.
A through write up on the cam cover variations is required.
There are some 67.5 2000 GURUS who have not contributed yet and we
need your expertise to critique this draft.
Submit all comments,corrections,additions,pictures, etc. to this thread (or to me privately) and I will update the Guide.
We will resolve any contested information through discussion in this thread.

http://1drv.ms/1mbATcL

Ted.

[ted heaton]

Sorry, Link is messed up.
Fixing it soon.

FIXED.

Ted.

[ted heaton]

Thanks to all for the assistance in building the Guide
BUT, we are not done yet.
The WIKI guide needs more detailed review to verify the data and pictures.
Also here are some aspects that need further verification, info and pictures.
I will also post this in the Wiki guide thread so, sorry if you see it twice.

1. The 5 speed transmission center case had ribs added to it at some point in the run.
Do we know at what car # this occurred?

2. Syncro fitment. Servo or Warner? Is there some order to this variation?. One type first? At what car #?

3. Cam cover surface. The OEM cover was natural grey aluminium and smooth.
Not polished or painted. Is this correct?. Later 68 covers had a more rough, brushed surface?

4. The Gauge change from silver color to black on the needle button occurred at approximately what car #?
Is it around car #200 or later around #500?

5. Expansion of the Rear quarter panel section in the guide
Rear fender bottom seam where it attaches to the body is a pinch or flat seam and is in the middle or inboard edge.
A prior forum thread indicated the seam was flat up to about car #200. The seam was moved from inboard to the middle at some time.
Anyone have further information?. Seam pictures would be helpful.
Any timeline or car # for these changes?

6. The parts book specifies a Mitsubishi voltage regulator (true?) but the picture is of a Hitachi regulator.
Send a picture of the proper OEM Mitsubishi regulator.

THANKS,
Ted.