67.5 2000 Roadster Guide

[jacksonfdny]

Here is a pic of tax on car # 225 that looks the same as pebbles car

I have no idea if there ever was a gauge replacement , my first thought after reading that they went from silver to black at some time was that someone working on the assembly line just grabbed two different ones ( smile )

Maybe there are more than two cars like this or maybe there were problems with some of the tac's and they were replaced

I have no idea just thought it was interesting

[gmagana]

there are 2 cars that alvin pictured that have the different gauges

[gmagana]

The inside of the wheel is stamped with the production date of the wheel. Just another interesting bit of trivia....

[ted heaton]

Members, Thanks for all the posts and info today.
I think this process will work and we can end up with a very complete and useful guide.
Here are some comments concerning today's posts.

From bmccarthy67
"Great pictures as always Alvin. If we are creating a guide of what a model should look like, wouldn't the judges from the big Datsun shows have something that list specific items. I'm an east coasters, but I assume the Shasta and Solvang show use community members as judges(?)...it would seem like there is some list out there that says model x has... I do appreciate this thread as I finally see a 67.5 2000 radiator shroud."

Got a big laugh about this Buddy. My response is "We don't need no stinkn judges". Solvang and Shasta judging is done by the participants.
NO guys in bow ties and multi page clipboards of minute details like at "real" car shows (thank heavens)!

From Mike Unger
"It's been my experience that all the US market 67.5 2000s I have seen have 135 HP VIN plates regardless of carb type. When they do have Mikuni Solex carbs fitted they are the early type (2 screw jet cover)."

I believe you are right Mike as no roadsters came to USA with Mikuni carbs and 150 HP plates. The 150 hp package of carbs/manifold/linkage,
air cleaner housing, "B" cam and larger oil pan were available and the dealer could install them but the ID plate was not changed.
It is a funny to see how many USA roadsters sport the 150HP plates. Carl at NEW-DATSUN-PARTS reproduced the 150 HP plates
and he likes to tell how he has sold 100's more of them than the # of roadsters that could legitimately use them.

Right also as to the carbs. I think all 67.5 2000s came with the early type 1? 2 screw jet cover Mikuni carbs.
Interestingly this is one part that does not cause much controversy when the much better Type 4? carbs are used instead.
Most restorations use them and it seems most buyers are quite OK with the much better later version Mukunis.
There is more interest in having the OEM open air cleaner housing.

From jacksonfdny
It seems there is a difference between the valve cover's on the 1/2 year 2 liter cars . Rivets in the " C " , others in front of the " C "
Throttle cable brackets on top of valve cover on some cars , some not . Is there difference in how bracket holding throttle cable was mounted ? I've seen some where the vertical leg of bracket comes up from the rear and some from the front of mounting point

We need to have more specifics on the interesting cam cover variations.

From Curtis.
The main difference for the hood harness is the light and horn relay wires. The original had the wires exit together and run to the relays. The updated harness has the two sets of wires exiting separately at different points closer to each relay.

Thanks for the specific difference.

Stan,
Thanks for the many details.

Gerardo,
Thanks for the closeup instrument pictures. Just what we need for most of the parts for the guide.

As for the discussion of the needle center color, lets keep it civil as Steve A. said.
It appears to be more of a semantic difference about colors. The discussion will lead to a resolution.
Interesting to hear of more than 1 roadster having gauges with mixed colors. As was mentioned this may just be the
coincidence of using up remaining gauges.
The car # where this change approximately occurred is still unclear. Stan stated around roadster #490
but I thought I remember Jon F telling me it was about roadster #200. Hopefully Jon F can join us with more data.

The inside of the wheel is stamped with the production date of the wheel. Just another interesting bit of trivia....

Gerardo, thanks for the wheel info.
Wheels are wheels, right?, NO, I was surprised to learn some time ago of the matter of "correct" OEM wheels for the 67.5 2000.
Here is some wheel info from a member who has researched the matter.

"Wider 4.5" rims become available to midyear 67 1600/67 2000. These become standard wheel size through end of run to 1970 model. As with earlier roadster model rims, the date code is stamped inside the rim (covered by tire), sometime in 1968 - after March the rims changed - the date was move to outside of rim (viewable) and a single seam appears along the radius."

SO for your 67 2000 roadster to have correct steel wheels they need to be 4.5" wide and with the wheel info
and date code stamped on the INSIDE of the rim AND the date be in the last half of 1967.

Ted.

[gmagana]

Members, Thanks for all the posts and info today.


Right also as to the carbs. I think all 67.5 2000s came with the early type 1? 2 screw jet cover Mikuni carbs.

Hi Ted Just so you know there was no type 1 Mikuni carbs on the roadster. All 67.5 would have had type 2 Mikunis. The type 3 and 4 are later carbs which are the ones we are more often seeing. There are several differences. One difference that is not discussed is the clocking of the linkage. The early carbs have a different clocking than the later Type 3&4 which have identical clocking for the linkage. I will try to put up some pics of those 2 linkages.
Thanks, Gerardo

[gmagana]

Satin Chrome Headlight trim Vs Chrome Trim
The 67.5 2000 came with the satin headlight trim, this was not the only model with the satin headlight trim, the 68 2000 also came with the Satin chrome headlight trim. the 69-70 Datsun 1600 and 2000 came with the chrome headlight rings and the 63-67 1500-1600 came in chrome also
Please see pictures attached:


63-65 1500 to 65-67 1600 Chrome headlight rings

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67.5 and 68 Satin Chrome headlight rings

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69-70 1600 and 2000 Chrome Headlight rings

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[Alvin]

I just remembered that Sora has the "early" type carbs! I think:


Headrests:





Chrome vs Satin headlight buckets

[Alvin]

Also, this thread would not be complete without one of these:

[notoptoy]

Those mirrors are interesting...I don't recall ever seeing those as OEM, thought they were aftermarket.

[spl310]

Bullet mirrors are aftermarket.

There were two versions of the headrest back plates. The earliest have them retained by two screws that go down vertically between the posts. It's easy to understand the change on that design.

I researched cam covers a while back and posted it. I'll look for it.

[spl310]

http://www.311s.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.ph ... t+in+the+c

[jamesw]

The gauges for #48 and #132 both had the satin chrome center. I'll check on 275's gauges (restored by Jon) when I get a chance.

Cheers
James

[jamesw]

Ha, that marketing picture is funny - it sure looks like chrome headlight buckets on that car to me.

Thanks for the reminder about the wheels Gerardo. The correct ones are hard to come by and even harder to prove if you have to take the tires off!

James

[Datsun 440]

Had to comment on Alvin's frame picture. That is of car SRL00057 The car was bought out of California, and is how a complete restoration.



Arnold
SRL 00057
SRL 00429
SRL 00440
SRL 00457
SRL 00692

[gmagana]

Picture of steel wheel stamp that would be correct for 67.5