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ca18det

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:06 pm
by 916roadster
is this the simular as the sr20det swap(tranny mounts, speedo cable, and oil pan). if anyone has any input on this please fill me in.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:16 pm
by TR
Yep, I think the SR evolved from the CA...TR

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:55 am
by alfred183
the SR didn't evolve from the CA. totally different design. all the mouting points are really close. stock motor/tranny mounts are the super similar. should be very similar to get it to work with a Roadster. I will be doing this in a few months. Will let you know how hard if you haven't done it by then :P

I think the throttle cable for a CA is a good match for 89-90 240sx while an SR will work better with a 91-98

Oil pan is totally different in that the SR is a two piece and the CA one is one piece. Both have a front sump and sit about the same place.

Maybe this CA pic will help Image

ca18

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:05 pm
by toolsnob
It is my understanding that this is a cast iron block, aluminum head with a single cam. I have also heard you can make some power out of this but it is an old drivetrain.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:17 pm
by 67 1/2 1600
Alfred, what are you going to do with the R16 in your car?

Joaquin

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:36 pm
by alfred183
It's almost out of the car. Were you looking for a spare engine to re-build?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:01 pm
by 67 1/2 1600
No, I just like to have original motors for roadsters. So what are you going to do with yours?

Joaquin

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:52 am
by alfred183
i'll probably sell it...will try to have it out by this weekend

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:55 pm
by 67 1/2 1600
I am very curious if this can be done?? I have a feeling it can but has anyone attempted to put in a twin cam DET CA18? I hear its a well underated engine that can really party if tuned right and modded correctly.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:51 pm
by ppeters914
67 1/2 1600 wrote:I hear its a well underated engine that can really party if tuned right and modded correctly.
There was a -HUGE- SR20 vs CA18 discussion started by Mr. Roper (flames & gasoline added by Dave Lum) on the Bluebirds list end of Sept/first week Oct. Extremely informative and entertaining.

In the end, John picked up a CA18 on evilBay for his 510 Project.

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:56 pm
by 67 1/2 1600
So no one has ever done a CA18DET in a roadster?? Well then.. there is a first for everything....

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:55 pm
by eVoMotion
There has been a CA18DE in Seattle with a welded in RX-7 shortened axle for 5 years or so.

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:40 pm
by ppeters914
From Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_CA_engine
The CA engine is a 1.6 L to 2.0 L Inline-4 piston engine from Nissan designed for a variety of small Nissan vehicles. It is an iron block, aluminum head design with a timing belt. Earlier versions featured SOHC and 8 valves. Later versions featured DOHC with 16 valves for increased high RPM efficiency and smoother power delivery. It is effectively a Nissan RB block with two less cylinders. Components from valves to lifters, as well as bearings, are similar if not identical to the RB and VG series engines. The motor was expensive to produce being cast iron, so it was replaced in 1991 by the SR series as the primary Nissan 4 cylinder engine.

The CA series engine was the workhorse of the 1980s and was a bulletproof little engine. The power ratings were heavily choked by emissions regulations and Nissan's desire for high gas mileage. The CA design ended in 1990 with the ultimate CA engine, the CA18DET.

The 1.8 L CA18DET was the last version of the CA engine to be released. It produces 175 hp (124 kW) and 169 ft·lbf (228 Nm). It received a brand new DOHC aluminum head with 16 valves. The turbocharger was also upgraded to a Garrett T25 (.48 A/R) unit for increased flow capacity, and as such, was fitted with an intercooler to help volumetric efficiency. Fuel was delivered via Multiport Fuel Injection. Bore is 83mm, and stroke is 83.6mm. This near square design, coupled with the head design, allows CA18DETs to spin well beyond 7,000 rpms, even in stock trim. The CA18DET is a robust built engine considering that many people have produced up to 600 hp with modification. Often referred to as the four cylindered RB engine.

It was used in the following vehicles:

* 1987-1988 Nissan Silvia S12 GT-X(International market)
* 1989-1990 Nissan Silvia/180SX S13 (International market)
* 1989 Nissan Bluebird RNU12 SSS ATTESA Limited (JDM Market)
* 1989-1993 Nissan 200SX S13-U Europe.

There were 2 versions of the CA18DET available, yet only one was produced for Japan. The Australian and Asian CA18DETs received 8 port (low port) heads, with butterfly actuated auxiliary ports in the lower intake manifold which corresponded with 8 ports in the head. Below ~3800 rpms, only one set (4 ports open, 1 per cylinder) of long, narrow ports would be open, accelerating the intake charge to the cylinder. This allowed for quick spool and good low end tractibility. At the 3800 rpm change over, not only would the ECCS shift into batch fire (as opposed to sequential) fuel injection, but it also opened the second set of short, wide ports (8 ports open, 2 per cylinder) which assisted in high RPM flow. This motor is known for stronger torque characteristics, as well as faster spool at lower RPMs. However, due to displacement-based taxation and cost of emissions testing in Europe, the CA18DET was sold as the only available engine in the S13 chassis 200SX (Euro model) until replaced by the S14 in 1994. The Euro motors received the 4 port (high port) head and intake manifold, as well as revised ECCS ("Electronic Concentrated Control System") parameters. Power was not increased, but high RPM flow was indeed improved, making the 4 port CA18DET the most desirable of the late generation Nissan turbo 4s. Due to superior head design (cam on bucket, as opposed to the flawed complex and heavy rocker arm actuation of later motors like the SR and QR series), many enthusists consider the CA18DET to be the best engine platform since the FJ20ET that powered the legendary DR30 Skyline DOHC-RS.
Sounds like a good engine that's overlooked/overshadowed by all the KA/SR info.

Yo, alfred123, any new status on your swap?