Brake Shoe Part numbers

Tech tips and how to's

Moderators: notoptoy, S Allen, Solex68

danimal2

Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by danimal2 »

Hello all, I am in the process of replacing brake shoes on one of my 1969 spl1600. I was so happy to find that Oriely auto Parts could get the shoes for me the next day after I called them. I was so happy that I ordered two sets (as I do have two cars). The part numbers are Brake Best 371. Well par for the course, most of the things that I have been able to order locally through Autozone, NAPA, and Oreilly just don't fit. I should have measured the shoes before I ordered, but I am no "Brake Expert" so I did assume that these would work. I see know the measurements on the Oreilly site are 8 X 1.38.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detai ... &ppt=C0009" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not sure if the cut and paste of the link will work, but it was worth a try.

So, what part numbers are you all using? I can't seem to get myself to spend $99.00 on a set of brake shoes when I know that there are some aftermarket ones out there for $16 -$18. I have checked the tech section and most of those part numbers are NLA.

I am also concerned with the wheel cyclinders in the back. Should the 1969 have 13/16 or 3/4 and where is a good place to get these kits. Are the 13/16 and 3/4 interchangeable?

Thanks everyone.

Daniel
User avatar
GeoffM
Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
Posts: 1620
Joined: Thu May 22, 2008 2:28 pm
Location: Vancouver BC

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by GeoffM »

I believe the only cyls available now are the 3/4". I think I paid ~$60/each.

You could probably get your shoes relined. If it was me, I'd just buy the OEM shoes. Find someplace else other than brakes to cheap-out on. :wink:
Edit: 8x1.38 isn't even close to being right.
Geoff
1969 SPL-311
User avatar
K1200 GT
Roadsteraholic
Posts: 2135
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:15 pm
Location: Grants Pass, Oregon

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by K1200 GT »

I looked at Rockauto sight ....Raybestos shoes 8x1.38 is what they list also. What is your shoe size that are on your car? Stay with the 3/4 wheel cylinders on both sides of the car. Look at ebay sometimes they have good prices and again sometimes they dont. Shoes and rebuild kits.

Richard
Life is good...but I want more
If I cant fix it, It aint broke
Rich

2000 Miata Special Edition 6 spd/LSD
1970 SPL 311
1999 Dodge 3/4 4x4
1986 Toyota Cressida
2003 BMW K1200GT (1200 cc)
1992 BMW R100RT (1000cc)
1969 BMW R69S (600cc)
1997 BMW 328I
User avatar
Linda
Fraternal Den Mother-RIP
Posts: 7807
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:37 pm
Location: Los Angeles
Model: 1500/1600
Year: High Windshield-68-70

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by Linda »

Naw.
See the PM WIKI Tech section link up there on the left of your screen? Go there. Look for PARTS, then go to Datsun Parts Interchange, then go to Brakes, then read down and find........Datsun 510 shoes fit part numberTS 359-----15-20 bucks.
The rest of the page has other money saving aftermarket parts too

Linda
Sadly-Linda has passed away 2022. She was the 311's den mother and drove the first Rare-Parts ball joint project. RIP.
danimal2

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by danimal2 »

Linda wrote:Naw.
See the PM WIKI Tech section link up there on the left of your screen? Go there. Look for PARTS, then go to Datsun Parts Interchange, then go to Brakes, then read down and find........Datsun 510 shoes fit part numberTS 359-----15-20 bucks.
The rest of the page has other money saving aftermarket parts too

Linda
Been there done that...

I do currently have a set of 510 shoes on order. Should be in tomorrow. Will post part number as well as if they fit. Part number for these is Brake Best as well with part number 359 and measure 9 X 1.56 which sounds about right for the shoes I am replacing.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detai ... &ppt=C0009" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

These are off of a 1972 510.

So, are the 13/16 and 3/4 just a swap out change? Or, will I have to do some brake line stuff to put the 3/4 wheel cylinders in. Have a place that can possilby get them for about $28.00. If they will work, I will pass on the link and part numbers.

Thanks everyone.

Daniel

No, I do not like to go cheap on brake parts, but we are talking about the back brakes here. The car will remain stock. So I just don't see spending $99 for a $20 part. (Yes, I know the research and time spent for vendors to find these hard to find parts. I also understand extreme markups). Although these vendors are extremely helpful as well as knowlegable it does come at a price.
User avatar
GeoffM
Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
Posts: 1620
Joined: Thu May 22, 2008 2:28 pm
Location: Vancouver BC

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by GeoffM »

I agree 100%. If the 510 shoes are identical and a fraction of the cost...why not? The measurement is close.
What I meant by cheaping-out was trying to find something that almost fits and working with it.
The 3/4" cyls are a direct bolt in (shim in) replacement.
Geoff
1969 SPL-311
User avatar
K1200 GT
Roadsteraholic
Posts: 2135
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:15 pm
Location: Grants Pass, Oregon

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by K1200 GT »

According to the vendors the 13/16 is for the 65-67. The 3/4 for the 68,69,70.

Richard
Life is good...but I want more
If I cant fix it, It aint broke
Rich

2000 Miata Special Edition 6 spd/LSD
1970 SPL 311
1999 Dodge 3/4 4x4
1986 Toyota Cressida
2003 BMW K1200GT (1200 cc)
1992 BMW R100RT (1000cc)
1969 BMW R69S (600cc)
1997 BMW 328I
User avatar
dbrick
Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
Posts: 10084
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:05 pm
Location: Kenilworth, New Jersey

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by dbrick »

FYI there is an error in the software used by almost every parts seller, including Rock auto and my local independent store that listed a xxx371 number. I got a great deal on 2 sets, which don't fit :(
The paper catalog is correct from the various manufacturers. The 510 shoes, XXX-359 is what is listed in the WIKI and what I used on the car and it worked fine.

Dave Brisco

Take my advice, I'm not using it"

66 2000 The Bobster
64 1500 in pieces for sale
1980 Fiat X1/9
2009 Volvo C-70
08 Expedition EL, STUPID huge but comfy
1962 Thompson Sea Lancer, possible money pit
User avatar
Linda
Fraternal Den Mother-RIP
Posts: 7807
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:37 pm
Location: Los Angeles
Model: 1500/1600
Year: High Windshield-68-70

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by Linda »

You should have the 3/4 cylinders for your 69 as noted. If you have the 13/16, that is for the early car, as noted also. Or as in my case, one of each :shock: The 3/4 are definitely less expensive. Rebuild kits are available also.
Good luck,

Linda
Sadly-Linda has passed away 2022. She was the 311's den mother and drove the first Rare-Parts ball joint project. RIP.
danimal2

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by danimal2 »

Okay, got the shoes that I stated above and they fit. My wheel cylinders are fried....Imagine that. Yes they are both 13/16 and this is a 1969. I did also check my other 1969 and it to has working...lol 13/16 wheel cyclinders.

There are two Nissan Part numbers for rear wheel cyclinders and I don't know which is which:
44100-14600
44100-25500

don't know what size these are and I can not find needed info. Any help on this one. Or is there a supplier online that will make me a deal on 4....lol.

Rebuild kits from Nissan are no longer and I even tried a source through Japan, those part numbers are:
44100-14625
44100-73425

I know that NAPA can still get the ones for 3/4 wheel cyclinders.

Thanks for the clarification on the size K1200 and Linda. I am the 2nd, 3rd or 4th owner of these two cars and I am finding out that even though the Father owned one and the son owned the other that the parts are varing between the two cars. I am sure they did the same thing that I would have done back then and purchased what was available and or cheaper.

Thanks for all the help everone. But I am in need of some 3/4 Wheel cyclinders. What vender do you all Like to use.

Daniel
User avatar
notoptoy
Vendor-Site Supporter
Posts: 9680
Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:55 pm
Location: Winston-Salem, NC and Ocala, FL
Contact:

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by notoptoy »

They are listed on E-bay frequently for $122 for the pair plus $9.00 shipping. The seller is Schluderm, and I have purchased from him many times in the past and have always been happy. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... MEWAX%3AIT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Also Dean at Datsun Parts has them for $59.00 each, and the 13/16 at $168 each.
"When all else fails, force prevails!" Ummm, we're gonna need a bigger hammer here.

67.5 SPL311 H20 w/5 speed
65 Impala Convertible
2017 C43 AMG
User avatar
Dcyco1
Roadster Fanatic
Posts: 245
Joined: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:02 pm
Location: Batavia IL

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by Dcyco1 »

I just bought some Beck Arnley shoes for the 510 and they worked. I got them at Advance auto parts for around $35.00. The part number in the wiki for Autozone is not correct. Those shoes are to small.
1969 Datsun 2000
1996 WS6 Trans Am
2016 Maxima SR
User avatar
23yrRebuild
Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
Posts: 1117
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:19 pm
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
Model: 1500/1600
Year: Low Windshield-64-67.5

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by 23yrRebuild »

Kits for the 13/16" rear wheel cylinders are also commonly available .
Mike - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed
blattajon
Roadster Nut
Posts: 44
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:39 am
Location: kristiansand,Norway
Contact:

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by blattajon »

NISSAN P/N D406M-16525
danimal2

Re: Brake Shoe Part numbers

Post by danimal2 »

blattajon wrote:NISSAN P/N D406M-16525
And just where are you getting this part number.....I searched a couple of Nissan part searches and came up with nil....

The 510 shoes that I ordered seem to work, but my wheel cyclinders are froze on this particular car and so I can not be sure until I get the wheel cylinders.
Post Reply