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No Keys or Ignition Switch
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:09 pm
by darkbane
I'm finally starting to work on my 67 1600. I've been browsing the web trying to locate all the parts I might need. One thing I'm having trouble finding is an ignition switch, that isn't going to cost me an arm and a leg.
I have no keys for anything on the car. I can't get into the trunk, open the center console, no ignition switch, or anything else that needs a key.
How do I go about getting a set of new keys?
Also, is there a way to get into the trunk even though it's locked? I think my dad left some parts in there.
RE:Keys
Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:33 am
by S Allen
Take a door lock out or the ignition switch if you still have it. Take it to a locksmith and they should be able to reproduce a key that will work on the doors, trunk lock and ignition switch if they have never been swapped out. I have had to have that done several times.
Steve
Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:34 am
by TR
Fairlady products and maybe even Rallye have the key blanks, any good locksmith (look for an older guy going grey with squinty eyes and glasses) will be able to cut a key...
If you can get the license plate off, you can get a hanger in the mounting hole to open the trunk. Ask Will from SLO...
TR
Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 1:45 am
by Minh
Do what I did...
Call around all the local locksmiths and tell them you have an old car that needs a key made. Tell the year and make of the car. They will tell you if they have the blanks for it.
Then when you find a locksmithy.. You can have it the keys remade in 1 of 2 ways...
1. Have them come out to your place for a fee - $50-100.
2. Remove the lock mechanism from the trunk and take it there to be made - $4-25.
I do not remember if the ignition and doors are the same key.
Also the key for the gas cap maybe the same or not.
Can someone answet this question?
I remember reading a piece on on a webpage but I don't recall off hand. It could be Greg Valarza or something like that. Sorry
If they are not the same... take this opportunity to get those locks mated to the newly made key. Any locksmith can do that since it just setting the tumblers to match the key. You cold save a few buck by removing the locks yourself - $4-10 each lock.
The only hard part about getting to the locks. Once you get there there is tesnion sliding pin lock that hold them in. Just pull that slider out and the rest is pretty self explanitory.
The easiest one is the trunk lock. The hardest of the gas cap and ignition.
The gas cap you will need to have picked with lock picking tools to unlock and remove the cap. Once it's out you can do what you will.
The thay may need to picked by the locksmith to slide out the ignition locking shaft inside the assemby. If you try to remove the ignition assembly it may be difficult.
In my 69 the assembly is held together by 4 bolts. 2 of them can be unscrewed with a screwdriver. The other 2 are permanent. Luckely the previous owner spent the time required to cut the bolts apart with what appears to be a hacksaw blade. By the time I got aroudn to it I had the drill a whole into the cut bolts and remove them with some stud pulling taps. Then I bought new screws to replace all 4. I only need to replace 2, but screws and washers are cheap.
Get into trunk
Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:35 am
by DELETED
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 7:41 am
by spl310
You don't have to remove any locks! Just look at the front of the ignition switch and the console. There should be 4 numbers stamped on there. With those numbers, a well equipped locksmith that has been in business for some time should be able to cut a key for you. They cost about $10 around here. If you cannot find a locksmith that can cut from the code, contact me off list and I will see what I can do to help.
Now, keep in mind that the locks may have worn, so the keys may work fine, or they may need to be jiggled to work properly. If the door and trunk locks have not been replaced, you would be in business with the one key. If it does not unlock the others, then you need to get them out. The key codes for those locks are stamped on the sides of the cylinders. They can be hard to read, but a small wire brush (brass is good) will clean off the goop so that you can read them.
Ignition keys and lock problems
Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 10:01 pm
by PROUD ROADSTER OWNER
Hi : Your best bet is to ask around and find someone who doesn't rely upon his locksmithing to make a living and he can help you ! I do know one thing the key blanks are hard to come by ! I'm probably the closest roadster owner in terms of location ! I live in Georgetown,Illinois and own a 1969 SPL311 Roadster ! I think you might be well served in finding a parts car to strip because you will have a bundle in buying used parts ! When I bought my car it came with a parts car which has drastically reduced the cost of bringing my car to decent condition !! CONTACT ME ! I would enjoy talking to you !! DON (
kmart37@yahoo.com) GOOD LUCK !!