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Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:06 am
by zippy67roadster
datsun65 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:50 pm
On my RL411 I was able to swap to a H20 gear reduction starter without significant issue. The orientation of the solenoid was close to steering, but just cleared.
That is what I bought but it will not clear. I had heard there was one that had the solenoid at the 12 o'clock position but no one seems to have a part number for it.
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:12 am
by datsun65
I believe the transmission case in the RL411 is slightly different than the SP/SR.
I have my old RL411 starter (keeping for the future) if you want to trial fit it to your set up.
Let me know. I have it here in my garage in Katy
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:20 am
by keith0alan
Dan, Can you take some pictures of it for us?
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:06 pm
by datsun65
The RL411 Starter from my 1600 with 4spd. I was able to swap with a gear reduction starter from a H20. Just barely fit.
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Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:07 pm
by zippy67roadster
That starter looks like it would work as the solenoid is positioned away from the steering box. Do you have a part number? Everything listed for a 411 online is the same as the R16 for the Roadsters.
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:07 am
by datsun65
I went though all of my 410/411 books and parts catalogs. None of them have parts listings for the Rl411 1600. Lots of PL410 and PL411.
I have to go to the ranch and check for a spare. The RL411s are pretty wacky. The electrical diagrams (RL411) are just flat out incorrect in many aspects.
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:53 am
by zippy67roadster
datsun65 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:07 am
I went though all of my 410/411 books and parts catalogs. None of them have parts listings for the Rl411 1600. Lots of PL410 and PL411.
I have to go to the ranch and check for a spare. The RL411s are pretty wacky. The electrical diagrams (RL411) are just flat out incorrect in many aspects.
Thanks!!
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:00 pm
by johnlorio
I have a big parts manual for all the 410 and 411, shows separate listing for SSS parts. I'm happy to share pages as needed.
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:38 pm
by zippy67roadster
I am looking for the SSS starter part number.
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:12 pm
by johnlorio
Hey the high torque gear reduction starter for a roadster will work the solenoid is clicked correctly. Dean has them at DATSUN Parts .com. I used it on my SSS
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:37 pm
by zippy67roadster
I already tried to put one on it is not clock properly. It's okay I was able to find a 411 SSS one.
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:36 pm
by zippy67roadster
So we completed the engine install and got her running a couple months ago. I just have to finish up some interior details and it is done. We found the correct starter in Keith's pile of starters and had it rebuilt. Keith is finishing a custom set of Carb filter housings for it as well. I had a local exhaust shop complete the exhaust from the manifold out the rear. It has a great sound and the car is a stump puller! We are looking to swap out the stock diff with a Roadster one that will better match the Roadster 5 speed we put in.
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:56 pm
by zippy67roadster
So here is a video of the first start up and the new exhaust for the stroked R16.https://youtu.be/EJiwFH1G-E8
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:11 pm
by nismou20
Looks nice bumper delete, and that Alfa look front end!
Re: 67 Datsun 411 wagon
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:58 pm
by zippy67roadster
nismou20 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:11 pm
Looks nice bumper delete, and that Alfa look front end!
Yes the bumpers were huge and in really bad shape so I figured I would delete them. Now that I am in Texas the vehicle has to go through an inspection prior to getting a Texas title and registration. If they push the bumper issue I plan on getting bumpers for a 68 Camaro and shorten them to fit and then paint them black to match the graphics.