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Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:29 pm
by Akpilot
norgebe91 wrote:I have rust in the exact same places as you....except much worse. Thanks for the inspiration!! I will definitely be following this build! Love the Busa engine by the way.
Thanks for the interest, and I feel sorry for you if your is worse, I have my hands full with what I've got that's for sure. Yea the Busa should be fun!
I do need some help from the Roadster community, I'm trying to rebuild the inner fenders where it seems the Datsuns rusts away. It is under the air cleaner and battery. I'm bending up new metal and need to know if both passenger and drivers side are similar. My best side is the drivers side outer, but previously it was in a crash and a little jacked up, I bend it out best I could but need to know how much clearance I need for the shock towers, and if both sides are similar.
Measurements I got is:
From the bottom to the bend out for the air cleaner / battery is 3"
Shortest point to the air cleaner / battery bend out is 2 1/16"
At the front is 2.5" to the "Crease"
Total clearance length is 9.5"
Thanks
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:00 pm
by pebbles
Aka made a jig. Shoot him an email, here are some pics
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Jtth
As far as i can tell, both sides are similar on the bottom side nearest the frame.
Its not clear to me about where you are measuring to get 3 and 2 1/16
From the frame to the box channel or the width of the lower side of the box channel.
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:22 pm
by Akpilot
Thanks Pebbles, because I needed to hammer out the drivers side I wanted to know if the two sides were similar so I'll make them the same.
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:34 pm
by Akpilot
More...
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:54 pm
by Akpilot
It was a productive weekend, but looking at the pictures I would have rather been at Solvang meeting all you and looking at all the Roadsters. Come to think of it I've only seen the one I'm working on and Zogsters '68.
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:23 pm
by Akpilot
Well, like anything I usually do, I jump in with both feet and figured I'd attack the hard spot. Well it ended up being harder than I originally thought and I'm looking for some advice. Hopefully someone on here has opened up the cowl of the car and been there done that sort of thing.
First the easy part, enough talking on to the pictures.
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:33 pm
by Akpilot
Continuing on.
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:37 pm
by Akpilot
More.
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:46 pm
by Akpilot
These last pictures are of the drivers side as the pictures came out better.
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:13 am
by Roman
Wow! you certainly did jump in. Impressed the hell out of me, that's for sure.
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:29 am
by Akpilot
So now with that done I turned my attention to the cowl. What I'm concerned about is the how to fix the passengers side. It turns out that the bondo was hiding a lot of rust and the wire brush ate more metal away. So now how to fix?
1. Use copper backing and fill weld up the holes and grind smooth? (Original plan) This method I'm worried about heat warping this size of hole especially where the windshield seals.
2. Cut out small pieces of new metal and weld? Again warpage?
3. A guy at work suggested seam glue the cowl to the lower piece and not weld the holes but bondo them. Not sure how that will go and if rust will return. I think he mostly suggested as that's how they attached his side panels to his truck without warpage. Anyone have experience with this?
My plan was fill smaller holes with copper backing, grind and then to pinch the cowl down while spot welding the holes I used to separate then bondo if necessary, but the metal is too far gone for that. It almost needs to be completely replaced but bending, getting right so windshield will seal? Using patch panels underneath and then bondo filling the top will leave a uneven surface to weld to leading to an uneven windshield surface?
Advice anyone?
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:39 am
by Akpilot
Thanks Roman, but with me working on the floorboards, inner fenders ect seems easy. The cowl needs to seal and to make matters worse it will be a focal point of the project as anyone walking up to the car it's the first thing they'll see.
IDK but maybe I'm overthinking this just weld and grind smooth already.
Ak
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:53 am
by Roman
You got this.
With bonding instead of gluing, wouldn't brazing the holes be better than bondo? wouldn't that be less heat to cause damage, but give better protection?? My bondo in holes always has fallen out later.

Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:07 pm
by S Allen
You definitely have so mad metal working skills. I think you will sort it out all on your own. What you have done so far looks to be done by a skilled craftsman. Keep up the great work and do not forget to keep the pictures coming.
Steve
Re: Akpilot's Roadster
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:53 pm
by Gregs672000
Ya man, all I can say is if anyone can fix this, you can!