wheel spec question for Z wheels

Crazy Backyard Builder · Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:38 pm

Linda,

Did you take one of the wheel's with you when you went to chatsworth wheel? I had a set of those wheels years ago and they didnt take any special lugs as I remember. They were a dealer option wheel that came on 240Z's, and yes they were made by appliance. I have a set of 5 lug ones right now of the same wheel and they dont take ant special lug nuts.

The ones I had years ago came off my brothers 240z and did not use the large late model style lug nuts as I remember. I do all kinds of Datsuns and would be willing to help if you need it. I am local in Studio City if you would like me to look at them or try some sample lugs I have.

CBB

Post by **spl310** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:50 pm

I have not been following this too closely and just hit the photo. CBB is right on. Those are aftermarket wheels, not factory wheels. The factory wheels take the fat lugs - the aftermarket ones should use standard lugs. Now, that having been said, if the hole is oval, then you may need something special. ET and Cragar made two versions of a unilug type wheel that took special washers. ET had oval washers and used a shanked countersunk lug while the Cragars had a large round washer with an offset hole. If yours are standard diameter holes, go down to Autozone and have fun shopping!

Crazy Backyard Builder · Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:52 pm

Linda,

The more I thought about it, I restored a set of those in 13 inch and they used standard lug nuts.

My 2 cents,

CBB

Post by **Linda** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:21 pm

CBB,
Yes I took a wheel down to Chatsworth Tire and the guy knew right away what they were and said that the Kragen lugs I bought (7/16'' mag) would not work. Then he put in a call to some specialty place to see if he could get some lugs. He also mentioned "Roto" lugs. This guy had these wheels on his Z years ago, I think from the dealer so that is why I thought they were "Datsun" wheels, but apparently they are from the dealer but aftermarket by Appliance. It may be that you can get away with certain lugs but the exact right ones reduce "vibration", so they say.
I don't mind being really sure on this because after all, it is the wheel!
True story-My brother forgot to tighten the lugs on his wheel one time and as he was going around the corner of our gravel driveway, he lost a wheel!
I thought my Dad was going to die laughing after he saw my brother was unhurt.....
CBB, thanks for the help offer, Ill PM you to see if we can make something work. Also found some EBAY lugs but would prefer local and soon!
I'll post the final fix as soon as I have it.
Thanks to all for the help.

Linda
68 1600

Post by **Linda** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:37 pm

Here's a set of these wheels on EBAY:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/14-x-5-5 ... 4831QQrdZ1

Linda
68 1600

Post by **ppeters914** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:33 pm

Linda wrote: Just want some wheels that look better than the stock rims.

IMHO, the stock wheels look good and add that classic look. Of course, when the time comes that I can afford Panasports...

Post by **dbrick** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:51 pm

The holes in those wheels do look really large, and the offset washers would get the nut centered. The 200SX wheels I just took off seem to use fat lug nuts, about .75 OD and are stamped "Western Wheel" on the inside.

Post by **Linda** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:44 am

Dave,
I met with Brian, (Crazy Backyard Builder) today to check the wheel lug size.
He was very nice, helpful, and not a bit crazy as far as I could see. ....
The Nissan lug nuts are too small. He had one that I measured as .747OD.
My wheel has holes that are .831 diameter, .62 length, with a outside diameter of 1.292 where the washer and lug head would sit. Wheelcomponents.com had a lug with a .80 diameter but not in the 7/16" thread. So I am checking on the actual specs for the Appliance lugs on EBAY, and if the specs are right I will get those.
Good news was Brian said the wheels are in good shape!
Everything takes a bit of time on a Roadster, eh?

Linda
68 1600

Post by **dbrick** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:58 am

sounds like the crazy rotolugs are the ticket, the washer locates it in the hole. If I were you, i'd go to the oldest speed shop around, find a guy with grey hair and ask him. That usually works for me.

Post by **Linda** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:15 am

List,
Here is a link to a West Coast source, Anaheim, CA, for lug nuts, including the elusive Nissan -like one that Vic mentioned :
www.customwheelaccessories.com
www.customwheelaccessories.com/MagLugNuts.html

Linda
68 1600

clunker · Post by **clunker** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:09 pm

Linda
I bought a set of Roto Lugs of EBAY for a difference set of appliance wheels and they fit great in the wheel lug holes (though I haven't run them on the car yet as I am waiting to get some sticky rubber). I would be happy to measure them for you if you need it.

Post by **Linda** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:33 pm

Hi Steve,
I ordered some too and are waiting for them but in the meantime I would love to know the size on the ones you got.
Thanks,
Linda
68 1600

Post by **dbrick** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:05 pm

clunker wrote:Linda
I bought a set of Roto Lugs of EBAY for a difference set of appliance wheels and they fit great in the wheel lug holes (though I haven't run them on the car yet as I am waiting to get some sticky rubber). I would be happy to measure them for you if you need it.

I just got some Falken Ziex ZE-512's 185-60-14from Sears on sale for $42.00 ea, but I would pay close attention when they mount and balance them.

Post by **Linda** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:26 am

Wheel update:
Well finally got the right lug nuts and washers for my Appliance wheels, 14 x6. Tires are 175/70/14. Here's the story.
The washers are a step mag center washer as seen here, no 6028. It has a shaft OD of .859 and fits snugly into the wheel hole. Inside diameter.70. The head of the washer is 1.12, fits well.
www.customwheelaccessories.com/WASHERS-2006.html
The lug nuts are like this, no 4601 ,ET/AP step mag lug nuts. Shaft diameter.61. It fits into the shaft of the washer.
www.customwheelaccessories.com/ETLUGNUTS.html
Custom Wheel Accessories is wholesale but they will sell for cash.
After some polish the wheels look like this:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/551 ... 2546GuvOIM
http://community.webshots.com/photo/551 ... 2546WbDyln

The car looks like this
http://community.webshots.com/photo/551 ... 2546HaivbO

I need to add the center caps. I thought you could put them on after, but guess not:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/551 ... 2546bytpGx

Wheels make a difference, don't you think?

Linda
68 1600
Add: The folks at Deals On Wheels Two (EBAY store)
dealsonwheels2@hughes.net
were easy to work with, highly recommended.

67 1/2 1600 · Post by **67 1/2 1600** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:33 am

Nice!!! Definately makes it look more sportier!