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Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:39 am
by fj20spl311
Alvin wrote:I'm confused. I thought longer studs were required on wheels with low offset or wider than stock width.
What does the metal insert have to do with it?
Using Work Equip 1 wheels as an example. When they machine the mounting flange, they do it two different ways which they refer to as "O" and "A" disk. The "A" has a 10 mm thicker flange area, which gives more caliper clearance but the thicker flange require a longer stud.
I thick there are more offsets available than there are casting, so some have a thicker flange.
My 15x7 +12 Retro 4 have a very thick flange (lots of caliper clearance), but require longer studs.
They offer +18 and +12 wheels 15x7 wheels.....the +18 wheels may just have a 6mm thinner flange on the same casting.
My wheels have a metal insert for the lug nuts to seat against. They have a "shank" portion that help hold it in place that goes almost completely through the flange. They may have different inserts for different offsets or they might machine the flange after the inserts are installed.
My inserts would be machined if It took more than 3 mm off the flange.
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:41 am
by Garm
I thought longer studs were required on wheels with low offset or wider than stock width.
I have 14x6.5 Hayashis on my car with stock studs. 15x7 Hayashis also fit on the stock studs.
I'm waiting to hear if Kevin's Rotas require longer studs. I'm sure other RB guys know.
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:06 pm
by RCMike
I put longer studs in, but I had hubs apart anyway and decided that the studs were cheap maintainence going forward while everything was apart..
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:22 am
by FutoFab
Regarding the need for longer studs on VTO wheels. Most all applications need them.
Garm, the car looks GREAT! But I'm surprised that the studs didn't need replacing (maybe they have been replaced already). I've seen studs of varied lengths on the same hub. It may be that replacements over the years varied in length as well.
VTO uses the same outer mold for every wheel. The face of say a 15x6 wheel, regardless of offset, will have the same exact dimensions and appearance. The offset is adjusted by removing material from the hub mounting surface. Lower offset wheels have a thicker center than a higher offset one.
The steel lug nut seats are inserted into a recesses machined into the face of the wheel. A +3 offset wheel will have a very deep recess for the lug nut when compared to a +24 which is much shallower. The distance from hub mounting surface to lugnut seat is the same on a +3 offset as it is on a +24 so offset is not the cause of needing or not needing longer studs on a VTO wheel.
If anyone does have questions about VTO wheels and Roadster fitment, please feel free to contact me. After all I'm the guy that VTO & BRE2 call when they have Datsun Roadster questions.
Sorry I've been away so long and not helping folks out with these details.
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:10 pm
by Kevin Desirello
New wheels installed had to use longer studs.
Went down from 17's to 16x7's
Thanks Garm...
Now on to suspention upgrades........Hum....
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:53 pm
by Alvin
I like those better than the 17s Kevin, nice job!
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:46 pm
by aspitfire
BRZ or FRS in the backround? Ours is the same color!
Those rims looks amazing, great look for the car.
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:29 am
by RCMike
aspitfire wrote:BRZ or FRS in the backround? Ours is the same color!
Those rims looks amazing, great look for the car.
That is a BRZ.. What a fun car to ride in..
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:00 pm
by aspitfire
RCMike wrote:aspitfire wrote:BRZ or FRS in the backround? Ours is the same color!
Those rims looks amazing, great look for the car.
That is a BRZ.. What a fun car to ride in..
Yes it is! Ours is also a BRZ, i can only wish to have my roadster handle the way that car does.
Re: VTO wheels installed
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:48 pm
by blueridgespeed
Those VTO LeMans reproductions in 15x6 look very nice on the roadster. Are the tires 195/50/15?