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Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:03 am
by theunz
The Mazda wheels you referred to are 8 hole while the OP wheels are 10 hole.
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:05 am
by spl310
Oops - in a hurry. I dunno then.
Looking for wheels thread revival
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:50 pm
by Slackline
Thread revival. Looking for wheels.
I am looking for a "Halibrand style wheel". Like: polished edge, gray face, knock offs. Prefer 15x6, and prefer not to pay $800 per wheel.
example
Hard to find 4 lug 114.3 (same as 4 on 4.5?) Perhaps because they are a 5 hole wheel which may or may not have 4 lug availability.
And if you do find something close, the center bore is probably too small.
Has anyone seen similar?
Or is there a good wheel search site? Tirerack is not much help.
Thanks.
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:23 pm
by Linda
Did you read this thread? There are links to the pics of Roadster wheels in use that fit.
Wheel choices take some care in selecting to avoid an expensive mistake.
Linda
Re: Looking for wheels thread revival
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:30 pm
by Alvin
Slackline wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:50 pm
Thread revival. Looking for wheels.
I am looking for a "Halibrand style wheel". Like: polished edge, gray face, knock offs. Prefer 15x6, and prefer not to pay $800 per wheel.
example
Hard to find 4 lug 114.3 (same as 4 on 4.5?) Perhaps because they are a 5 hole wheel which may or may not have 4 lug availability.
And if you do find something close, the center bore is probably too small.
Has anyone seen similar?
Or is there a good wheel search site? Tirerack is not much help.
Thanks.
You might have to find your desired wheel, and simply have it filled/drilled to 4x114.3 and a larger bore. OR find a manufacturer that offers custom bolt patterns, like AR for example they offer a 15x6 with custom bolt pattern...~$450/each:
https://www.americanracing.com/product/ ... salt-flat/
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:33 pm
by Alvin
Google has a ton of info....here are wheels that are ~$210 each:
https://www.rocketracingwheels.com/rock ... r-gray/p38
Buy a 15x6 and have it re-drilled. Done.
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:36 pm
by Slackline
Linda wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:23 pm
Did you read this thread? There are links to the pics of Roadster wheels in use that fit.
Wheel choices take some care in selecting to avoid an expensive mistake.
Linda
I did read the whole thing looking for similar wheels, and looking for the data for offset, etc. I did not find them, so I revived the thread.
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:37 pm
by Slackline
Thanks. I did not see these on Google. Been looking for a while.
Can they re-drill from 5 to 4?
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:40 pm
by Alvin
Slackline wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:37 pm
Thanks. I did not see these on Google. Been looking for a while.
Can they re-drill from 5 to 4?
Not sure if the manufacturer can (worth asking if they do custom patterns) but your local wheel specialist can absolutely fill/re-drill to 4-lug
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:49 am
by Slackline
Will a 15 x 6 with 3.5" backspacing fit ok? I see the max backspace is approx 4.75, but what is the amount of space on the front?
American Racing wheels in 15x6 have zero backspace with -19 to +3 backspace which I am not sure will fit. The way I understand the backspacing is that it would need approx +20 to +25 which is not available there.
I did find a local wheel machinist. I will talk to them on Monday.
I can certainly see why people drop this topic and move on.
Thanks.
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:57 pm
by Alvin
Slackline wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:49 am
Will a 15 x 6 with 3.5" backspacing fit ok? I see the max backspace is approx 4.75, but what is the amount of space on the front?
about 4.5" front and rear is ideal.
American Racing wheels in 15x6 have zero backspace with -19 to +3 backspace which I am not sure will fit. The way I understand the backspacing is that it would need approx +20 to +25 which is not available there.
+15 offset is considered safe.
I did find a local wheel machinist. I will talk to them on Monday.
I can certainly see why people drop this topic and move on.
not sure what you mean, please elaborate.
Thanks.
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:59 pm
by Alvin
Slackline wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:49 am
Will a 15 x 6 with 3.5" backspacing fit ok? I see the max backspace is approx 4.75, but what is the amount of space on the front?
American Racing wheels in 15x6 have zero backspace with -19 to +3 backspace which I am not sure will fit. The way I understand the backspacing is that it would need approx +20 to +25 which is not available there.
I did find a local wheel machinist. I will talk to them on Monday.
I can certainly see why people drop this topic and move on.
Thanks.
another point to keep in mind is your model year. The fenders go from zero to large flare from '64-'70. What year car do you have?
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:05 pm
by Slackline
Mine is a 66.
What I meant by dropping this and moving on is that there are not a lot of readily available options and many people just stick with what they know works and of course they like the style or they would not use them. It gets overwhelming trying to find the right pattern, backspacing, bore, etc. There are actually quite a few options in the more modern styles, which is not what I am looking for. Absolutely nothing wrong with those, just not what I am trying to accomplish.
I spoke to my local wheel specialist. He refuses to fill and drill. He will only change the spacing, not the number of holes in pattern. His opinion is that the 4000 degree heli arc used to puddle the aluminum to fill the holes may make the centers brittle. I am not arguing for or against, just repeating his words. I know there is a shop in the bay area that does it.
The other option, changing the car to a different bolt pattern. Well, that will take me down the rabbit hole for sure.
For now, I am going to get new tires. The PO has 3 checking 175's and one new 185 on the rear. So, my two rear tires are different sizes. Both 70 series, but the 185 is taller. I will drive it on its new shoes and cleaning up the rest of the car while I ponder the wheel situation further. If there had been a quick solution, I would have gone with the new wheels/tires and not purchased tires for my current 14" wheels.
Also, Rocket does not offer those wheels in 4 lug.
Thanks for all of your help.
Rob
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:09 pm
by Slackline
I did find these though.
Not sure I like them. I'll need to photoshop them on the car.
Summit wheels
Re: Not Much Wheel Selection
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:19 pm
by Slackline
Scott Drake
and these are closer...
But they are 15 x 7 with 4.25 backspace. Would they fit?