Fuel Cell
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Fuel Cell
All,
I'm currently looking into a fuel cell that would mount into the stock location of the fuel tank, and be able to retain the stock fill location. Is this even possible, with what's out there now? I'm building a car to run in east coast vintage races and would like to retain street appearance. I'm also building a track car, that needs sheet metal work and can be gutted for SCCA production class. Any suggestions or vendors to try ?
JC
I'm currently looking into a fuel cell that would mount into the stock location of the fuel tank, and be able to retain the stock fill location. Is this even possible, with what's out there now? I'm building a car to run in east coast vintage races and would like to retain street appearance. I'm also building a track car, that needs sheet metal work and can be gutted for SCCA production class. Any suggestions or vendors to try ?
JC
68 2000 solex
JC
Firts check the general competition rules to find what type of tank you can use. Second try Fuel Safe cells they don't have a stock replacement tank but may know someone that does.
I know one guy who races a midget that has a fuel cap attached to thick clear tubed plastic coming up to his oem filler outlet and then goes to a fuel safe tank.
I'll try to get some pics of mine to send ya, just won't happen real quick as I'm trying to get it back together and do a cam swap.
Russell
Firts check the general competition rules to find what type of tank you can use. Second try Fuel Safe cells they don't have a stock replacement tank but may know someone that does.
I know one guy who races a midget that has a fuel cap attached to thick clear tubed plastic coming up to his oem filler outlet and then goes to a fuel safe tank.
I'll try to get some pics of mine to send ya, just won't happen real quick as I'm trying to get it back together and do a cam swap.
Russell
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AtL will take your stock tank and modify it to racing spec with foam etc. I am sure it is a few bucks, but would accomplish what you are looking to do. I know that Bob Clemme did this in his 67.5 SRL 000004 and it works quite well...
I run a 10 gallon ATL cell in the trunk of my roadster and it works well.
R
I run a 10 gallon ATL cell in the trunk of my roadster and it works well.
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Re: Fuel Cell
10 years later... is there any more info?
Im having issues with my tank and I dont want to spend the money on getting it treated and coated if I have to remove it within a year once I get serious with racing. Looked at the ATL tanks, but obviously the best tanks have a price that comes with it.
Im hoping there is a more budget option that has the safety of the Fuel Cell, but at a slightly lower price point.
Im having issues with my tank and I dont want to spend the money on getting it treated and coated if I have to remove it within a year once I get serious with racing. Looked at the ATL tanks, but obviously the best tanks have a price that comes with it.
Im hoping there is a more budget option that has the safety of the Fuel Cell, but at a slightly lower price point.
Simon
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Re: Fuel Cell
Sorry, no cheap way around it, you get what you pay for. Non-certified (i.e. non-tested) cells are cheap, around $250. FIA certified cells (steel boxes with rubber bladders) start around $750, then there is the plumbing (lines, pumps, filters, hardware), and then the fabrication and welding for a proper cage/saddle for the cell. $1000 minimum to do it right, and that's if you're doing all the labor. Worth every penny to do it right, just like a good fire suppression system and a good fire suit. I'm glad VARA requires FIA cells and fire systems, the fuel tanks and handheld extinguishers allowed in SCCA IT racing makes no sense to me...
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Re: Fuel Cell
I got word back from fuel-safe that they can modify the stock tank to be FIA certified. I figure if I have to shell out big money, I want to have the least amount of headaches possible, so I think this might save me a little, especially since I have a dirty tank to deal with anyways.
I will keep this thread updated as it goes along
I will keep this thread updated as it goes along
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Re: Fuel Cell
Ive sent out several pictures to fuel-safe and they are working on putting together a quote to modify the stock tank to be FIA legal. He was curious about moving the fuel lines, so it doesnt seem like it will be exactly the same, but running new fuel lines should be too bad, and depending on where the relocated, the stock lines may be able to be modified to work. I will probably run new lines because I think the stock lines likely have some crud in there.
I will let you know what the quote is, I hope this works out for me, so it can help those of us who dont want to go with a totally new fuel cell setup. This should also retain the stock filler location from what it sounded like.
I will let you know what the quote is, I hope this works out for me, so it can help those of us who dont want to go with a totally new fuel cell setup. This should also retain the stock filler location from what it sounded like.
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Re: Fuel Cell
Curious how it goes. Mine is junk and need a new cell fabbed up as well. It’s an oddball size in mine
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Re: Fuel Cell
you and me both!... I hope its not too painful. If they end up doing a few at the same time, I might be able to negotiate a better price, who knows.cole455 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:37 pm Curious how it goes. Mine is junk and need a new cell fabbed up as well. It’s an oddball size in mine
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Re: Fuel Cell
Question for you guys that came up today:
Does anyone know?fuel-safe wrote: If that tank has internal baffles inside of it (a pretty common feature on factory fuel tanks) it will be far more expensive for us to reuse your tank than to build you a new aluminum can.
However, if there are no internal baffle walls that would need removal, we could simply fit a bladder to it.
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Re: Fuel Cell
The tank on my '70 has 2 baffles in it.
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Re: Fuel Cell
Oh yeah, they all have baffles!
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Re: Fuel Cell
Thought so, just wanted to confirm... Lets see what this does
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Re: Fuel Cell
I think you ought to have two tanks quoted 17.25x12.5x9.5 out of aluminum!