Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
Ahhhh, I see said the blind man.
It's low windshield blinders, I didn't realize the high windshield's were different.
I learn yet again!
It's low windshield blinders, I didn't realize the high windshield's were different.
I learn yet again!
"When all else fails, force prevails!" Ummm, we're gonna need a bigger hammer here.
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
Here is another option for the turn signal mechanism cover. I took a late model cover. Cut, with a hacksaw, a section about 1-3/16" off the front. Then I ground off the ridge on the inside of that piece with a dremel. This piece fits in the open area between the early cover and the steering wheel. You can use the set screw to hold the late piece tight. I probably will glue the late piece to the early piece to firm everything up. Pics tell the story.
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Hmm, coulda sworn my 70 was on the left. Live and learn.
I'm in the process of trying to convert the heater controls from the 67.5 console to the 70 heater box. It seems the Shut-Def-Cabin cable needs to be reversed. It pulls when it needs to push (or vice/versa). Anyone successfully tackled this yet? Seems the vent, and hot/cold will work fine, but stumped on the directional control.
Marshal
I'm in the process of trying to convert the heater controls from the 67.5 console to the 70 heater box. It seems the Shut-Def-Cabin cable needs to be reversed. It pulls when it needs to push (or vice/versa). Anyone successfully tackled this yet? Seems the vent, and hot/cold will work fine, but stumped on the directional control.
Marshal
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
I know I am a cowboy, but does it really matter if the control is backwards?MSmethers wrote:Hmm, coulda sworn my 70 was on the left. Live and learn.
I'm in the process of trying to convert the heater controls from the 67.5 console to the 70 heater box. It seems the Shut-Def-Cabin cable needs to be reversed. It pulls when it needs to push (or vice/versa). Anyone successfully tackled this yet? Seems the vent, and hot/cold will work fine, but stumped on the directional control.
Marshal
You will know....I never look, just the Shut and Cabin will be reversed....LOL....
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
those knobs never made any intuitive connection any way - just like download/upload in computer terms - always seemed a matter of where you were. = why wasn't it send/receive ??
I guess that you could reverse the direction (somehow) by adding some bracket so that the cable is pulling/pushing from behind (nearer the engine compartment) - but I agree with the cowboy approach - who will ever know??
By the way, while you are in that area - have the heater radiator checked out - mine looked fine - but I took it to a radiator guy anyway - I am NEVER going to touch the heater again - and he found some pinholes in the pipes and a TON of rust (relatively)
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Additionally - if you have ANY intention of painting it - he said be careful what paint you use (not specifiied) because the heat can cause some ongoing unpleasant smells - he just suggested that I leave it alone.
I guess that you could reverse the direction (somehow) by adding some bracket so that the cable is pulling/pushing from behind (nearer the engine compartment) - but I agree with the cowboy approach - who will ever know??
By the way, while you are in that area - have the heater radiator checked out - mine looked fine - but I took it to a radiator guy anyway - I am NEVER going to touch the heater again - and he found some pinholes in the pipes and a TON of rust (relatively)
FWIW
Additionally - if you have ANY intention of painting it - he said be careful what paint you use (not specifiied) because the heat can cause some ongoing unpleasant smells - he just suggested that I leave it alone.
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
After taking a good look at things, The outside air/inside air had to be reversed. Mainly because of the way the control levers work. Had it not been reversed, when the selector is moved to defrost, cabin air is the only option. All of my "modern" cars use outside/cowl air to run the defroster. Basically I cut off the arm from the flap, reversed in 180 degrees, and lengthened the cable securer thingy. Now when the selector is moved to defrost, cowl air runs through the core. The downside is there is no recirculation of cabin air in any heat position. I'll cowboy the rest of it. I don't plan on having to use the heater much anyway. Now it's just a matter of climbing in, hooking up all the cables and installing the console.
I hadn't thought about paint and odors. I used 500 degree engine enamel. Probably a little stinky until heat cycled a few times.
Marshal
I hadn't thought about paint and odors. I used 500 degree engine enamel. Probably a little stinky until heat cycled a few times.
Marshal
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1970 SPL 311
1967 Pontiac GTO
1999 Pontiac Firebird
1995 GMC Sierra 1500
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
Thread from the dead. Any pictures of what you guys did with the VIN tag from your high windshield dash? Where is the best spot to mount it?
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
I was planning to rivet it to the dash pad....its made it to my dresser draw so far.....IIRC?....LOL
Phil
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
I didn't really like my plug welds, so I added a couple of small L brackets to both ends that I could get better weld on and would add more support. Also, I had to lower my steering column a fair amount to fit properly; I'll be adding some spacers there. I was able to use the existing hole on the flat dash to directly bolt in on the passenger side, and had to redrill it slightly lower for the drivers side. But it feels very secure now.
I need to go back and put some POR 15 on trimmed part of the upper piece that was welded in, and there are some gaps in there between the welds. Do others just fill it with seam sealer?
I need to go back and put some POR 15 on trimmed part of the upper piece that was welded in, and there are some gaps in there between the welds. Do others just fill it with seam sealer?
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
Another bump on this thread. Anyone have any old windshield weather stripping (bottom) and/or old dash pad? I finally have all my swap parts and my car back and ready to convert to flat dash.
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
I would get a new windshield weather strip. You don't want to chance leakage there so you want new and supple.
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
I’m getting ready to start a dash con, I have a bottom strip but it’ll be a couple three weeks before I can part with it. But when I’m done it’s yours.
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Re: Flat dash conversion. A work in progress.
Marshal (&Pat), Many thanks for these description and photos. While many years behind, your assistance through this thread is still priceless. I have the 67.5 portion fabbed as described, I'm heading toward cutting the "ears." It looks/reads to me that you "snuck-up" on the ears, -----then---- in-the-end continued cutting all the way back to the bottom of the pinch-weld which will hold the rubber windshield gasket. In my car (68') the ears are basically part of a narrow, dash-wide panel/metal welded up-under right at that "bottom" location you describe. Where they meet is essentially a seam and I read as the place I should cut-to? Thanks for any help in advance. Dave
And, is there any chance someone has the previously mentioned "invaluable section of lower windshield gasket" sitting unloved in their shop?? I'm happy to ship, borrow and return.
And, is there any chance someone has the previously mentioned "invaluable section of lower windshield gasket" sitting unloved in their shop?? I'm happy to ship, borrow and return.
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