Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
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Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
I've searched unsuccessfully for the correct specifications for the 5-speed drive shaft bolts.
I found mine to be in poor condition and not a shoulder bolt style which was always common on my s30 Z's.
Can I just assume it's a grade 8 shouldered with minimum length and be good?
Thanks for your links or help!
I found mine to be in poor condition and not a shoulder bolt style which was always common on my s30 Z's.
Can I just assume it's a grade 8 shouldered with minimum length and be good?
Thanks for your links or help!
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
Regular grade 8 SAE 5/16" bolts are perfect. Lock washers of course. Lock nuts are great too but more tedious to remove. J
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
Thank Jt. So they aren't spec'd for a shouldered bolt ?JT68 wrote:Regular grade 8 SAE 5/16" bolts are perfect. Lock washers of course. Lock nuts are great too but more tedious to remove. J
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
i think it makes a difference which way you put the bolts in (from a safety viewpoint) - the nuts should be on the 'outside' the bolt heads being on the 'inside' so that they are less likely to fall out if the nut unscrews.
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
Vinnyz wrote:Thank Jt. So they aren't spec'd for a shouldered bolt ?JT68 wrote:Regular grade 8 SAE 5/16" bolts are perfect. Lock washers of course. Lock nuts are great too but more tedious to remove. J
Right, standard bolts are just fine. Nothing special like later cars. I do like lock nuts. It is rare for the bolts to loosen, but you are on the side of the road if they do. Cheap insurance. J
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
May experience differs, so I use blue Loctite. I have always used fine thread - 5/16 x 24 grade 8 bolts.JT68 wrote: It is rare for the bolts to loosen, but you are on the side of the road if they do. Cheap insurance. J
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
Me too! I use the high strength Locktite and wave lock washers.fj20spl311 wrote:May experience differs, so I use blue Loctite. I have always used fine thread - 5/16 x 24 grade 8 bolts.JT68 wrote: It is rare for the bolts to loosen, but you are on the side of the road if they do. Cheap insurance. J
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
Same info, SAE is 5/16-24. Loctite is good, just a bugger to undo. Blue is fine, definitely not Red.
There is no rotational force trying to undo the nuts, only vibration. There is actually relatively little sheer force on the bolts if properly tightened. The clamping force is enormous, so friction between the mating flange surfaces is doing all the work.
If the fasteners loosen however, the bolts have it all, so again, grade 8 is good. Just don't forget to tighten well and definitely use lockwashers too!
There is no rotational force trying to undo the nuts, only vibration. There is actually relatively little sheer force on the bolts if properly tightened. The clamping force is enormous, so friction between the mating flange surfaces is doing all the work.
If the fasteners loosen however, the bolts have it all, so again, grade 8 is good. Just don't forget to tighten well and definitely use lockwashers too!
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
Great, thanks everyone. I always use blue Loctite on my driveshaft bolts along with lock washers. I was stumped when the previous owner had such badly beat down fully threaded bolts still in place. No way I'd have reused them.JT68 wrote:Same info, SAE is 5/16-24. Loctite is good, just a bugger to undo. Blue is fine, definitely not Red.
There is no rotational force trying to undo the nuts, only vibration. There is actually relatively little sheer force on the bolts if properly tightened. The clamping force is enormous, so friction between the mating flange surfaces is doing all the work.
If the fasteners loosen however, the bolts have it all, so again, grade 8 is good. Just don't forget to tighten well and definitely use lockwashers too!
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70' Datsun SRL-311-1374-SR20det 6 speed
69' Datsun SRL-311-12334-Solex 44 w/B cam
07' BMW Z4 coupe-Daily
70' Datsun SRL-311-1374-SR20det 6 speed
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
Yes on the thread locker... I had my bolts loosen and I don't think I screwed up. Not anymore.
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Re: Five speed correct drive shaft bolt specs
Always ......for sure! Vibration gremlins rarely happen when you have the right circumstances to explore or wrench.Gregs672000 wrote:Yes on the thread locker... I had my bolts loosen and I don't think I screwed up. Not anymore.
I bought four grade 8 1.5" Partial thread yellow zinc bolts (washers and nuts too) and then cut them down to 1.0".
Here is the old vs. new.......
Here is the new bolts ready to be cut to 1.0".
Here they are just before torque down.....
73' Datsun 240-Z turbo
70' Datsun SRL-311-1374-SR20det 6 speed
69' Datsun SRL-311-12334-Solex 44 w/B cam
07' BMW Z4 coupe-Daily
70' Datsun SRL-311-1374-SR20det 6 speed
69' Datsun SRL-311-12334-Solex 44 w/B cam
07' BMW Z4 coupe-Daily