Leaf Springs Re-Arch/De-Arch
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- Conner
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Leaf Springs Re-Arch/De-Arch
The original leaf springs are off my car. I'm trying to decide if I should have them re-arched or de-arched (to lower the rear end) or do nothing at all. I've ruled out buying new ones because they are pretty expensive and mine are in good shape. I don't want comp springs because everybody says they are too rough.
Anyway, I put the springs on the garage floor so the eyelets rest downward and measured up from the floor to the underside of the spring where the center bolts are located. The distance, which you can sort-of see from my picture, was a bit more than 3 1/4". The right and left springs are identical, which is good news.
If anyone has their leaf springs off their car I'd appreciate it if you could take a similar measurement and post here what it is. Also please let me know if your car has early or late stock or competition leaf springs, and whether they are new or used springs. I'm trying to get a baseline for stock spring height and for an inch or so of drop in the back. My car is a 68.
Thanks very much.
Anyway, I put the springs on the garage floor so the eyelets rest downward and measured up from the floor to the underside of the spring where the center bolts are located. The distance, which you can sort-of see from my picture, was a bit more than 3 1/4". The right and left springs are identical, which is good news.
If anyone has their leaf springs off their car I'd appreciate it if you could take a similar measurement and post here what it is. Also please let me know if your car has early or late stock or competition leaf springs, and whether they are new or used springs. I'm trying to get a baseline for stock spring height and for an inch or so of drop in the back. My car is a 68.
Thanks very much.
Andy Conner
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Due to a lack of patience and because at the time I had more money than time (funny, now I have neither!), I purchased the springs from Fairlady Products. They are essentially the old springs with an extra leaf added. They made my car handle way, way better and more predictable. I did not notice any change in harshness like I did with the front springs change.
Sorry, I do not have any springs to measure to compare to...
Sorry, I do not have any springs to measure to compare to...
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I'm using Comp springs don't know if they are new or old style and Konis front and rear with 14" 70 series tires right now. Not as bone jarring as I would have thought. I would keep the lid on the coffee cup. I think 50 or 60 series tires might make it a bit more harsh, especially if the tire pressure is on the high side. I'd like it to sit a bit higher in the rear for asthetics, but not worth the trouble. I don't know how the roads are by you, but I'm at about the minimum height for speed bumps and driveways around here.
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The arch on both springs of my 68 2000 are 3.34 and 3.36 inches. I have no reason to beleive they are not original. Both had a measured spring rate of approximately 150lb/in.
I'm interested in where this topic goes since I have not decided on what to do with either front or rear suspension on the roadster that I'm restoring. I'm inclined to just replace the bushings and reuse the springs as is.
I'm interested in where this topic goes since I have not decided on what to do with either front or rear suspension on the roadster that I'm restoring. I'm inclined to just replace the bushings and reuse the springs as is.
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Alvin--
Those pictures are helpful. It looks to me like the comp springs have nearly no arch at all.
Garth--
Those measurements are very similar to what I got. Mine were closer to 3 5/16", which is pretty close. As for the front suspension, I have decided on new comp coil springs from Mike Young (http://www.datsunsports.com/). I just received them Friday. I have heard a lot of good things about them; enough to convince me to move to those springs and replace my stock front springs.
Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
Those pictures are helpful. It looks to me like the comp springs have nearly no arch at all.
Garth--
Those measurements are very similar to what I got. Mine were closer to 3 5/16", which is pretty close. As for the front suspension, I have decided on new comp coil springs from Mike Young (http://www.datsunsports.com/). I just received them Friday. I have heard a lot of good things about them; enough to convince me to move to those springs and replace my stock front springs.
Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
Andy Conner
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Comp springs are indeed flat. I have Comps in the rear and Mike Youngs front springs with Konis all around. Its a little on the harsh side sometimes, but I've done a few all day stints in the car. It handles really well however. I also run 60 series tires.
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You could use tire diameter to fill the fenders, but you need some clearance. I have maybe 1 1/2" in the front from top of tire to fender. When you get close, the fender lip needs to be rolled if it hasn't been done already.
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I think you have something wrong. I have one of the first sets, with 60 series tires and there isn't much space between the tire and the fender. You might need to let the springs settle a little bit. One of these days I will post a newer pic of my car.
Will
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I took some photos of my new rear leaf springs to give you an idea of what
they should be? I posted them on the last page of the photo album. Hope
this is helpful.
http://community.webshots.com/album/82387147CblUDc/2
John
they should be? I posted them on the last page of the photo album. Hope
this is helpful.
http://community.webshots.com/album/82387147CblUDc/2
John
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