Soft Top Frame Restoration
Moderators: notoptoy, S Allen, Solex68
- bikermike
- Site Supporter
- Posts: 1763
- Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:06 pm
- Location: Denver Area, CO
- Model: 1500/1600
- Year: Low Windshield-64-67.5
Soft Top Frame Restoration
I am seeking advice on restoring a soft top frame. I'd like to remove the oxidation / light rust and put a nice finish on it, either to have it look original stock or black to match the top.
I have access to a blast cabinet, if needed. Would that be a way to go? I assume I should protect the pins somehow?
As for finish, what was it originally, and what is the preferred approach for obtaining it and protecting it?
Pics of completed frames are welcome. Thanks.
I have access to a blast cabinet, if needed. Would that be a way to go? I assume I should protect the pins somehow?
As for finish, what was it originally, and what is the preferred approach for obtaining it and protecting it?
Pics of completed frames are welcome. Thanks.
Last edited by bikermike on Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-Mike
1967.5 SPL311
1972 240z / L28
2003 BMW 525i Touring
2014 Jeep KL
1967.5 SPL311
1972 240z / L28
2003 BMW 525i Touring
2014 Jeep KL
- notoptoy
- Vendor-Site Supporter
- Posts: 9700
- Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:55 pm
- Location: Winston-Salem, NC and Ocala, FL
- Contact:
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
I did mine along time ago, but I think I just knocked the surface rust off with sandpaper and rust-oleum'd it with a rattle can in black. I think I even used a gloss black. I think it looks good, but then I never really see it as it is either down or off all the time. Originally it is just a dull metal finish - galvanized maybe?? I don't remember well as it has been a long time. the header is different, and had a bit more pitted rust than the frame did, it wasn't rusted through but was pitted enough to notice. Again, I only sanded and painted - aftet the fact, I probably should have used POR15 on the header.
"When all else fails, force prevails!" Ummm, we're gonna need a bigger hammer here.
67.5 SPL311 H20 w/5 speed
65 Impala Convertible
2017 C43 AMG
67.5 SPL311 H20 w/5 speed
65 Impala Convertible
2017 C43 AMG
- zippy67roadster
- Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
- Posts: 1406
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:43 pm
- Location: Cameron, Texas
- Model: 1500/1600
- Year: Low Windshield-64-67.5
- Contact:
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
My 67's was a matte silver so that is what I repainted it. I was luck and mine wasn't rusted so it was easy to just sand lightly and respray. If yours is rusty I would suggest blasting it and then using a good etching primer. The final color is up to you. I have seen some black to match the top, silver and even the body color of the car.
1967 Datsun SPL311-08935-vintage race car
1967 Datsun SPL311-10123 project
1967 Datsun 411 wagon
67.5 SPL311 Vintage Race car project
64 NL320 Pickup Truck
Brian
http://www.sincitydatsuns.com
https://www.facebook.com/sincitydatsuns
1967 Datsun SPL311-10123 project
1967 Datsun 411 wagon
67.5 SPL311 Vintage Race car project
64 NL320 Pickup Truck
Brian
http://www.sincitydatsuns.com
https://www.facebook.com/sincitydatsuns
- spl310
- Roadster Guru
- Posts: 13241
- Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2002 10:38 pm
- Location: In front of this keyboard... in Jacksonville, Florida!
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
I believe that they were originally zinc plated. Silver works fine. Black makes it disappear which is cool too.
"Wow, a Roadster!" Stuart Little
1967.5 2000
1967.5 2000
1964 1500
1964 1500
1967.5 1600
1968 chassis
2006 Acura MDX
2013 Volkswagen Jetta TDI wagon
1995 F350 Powerstroke!
More...
1967.5 2000
1967.5 2000
1964 1500
1964 1500
1967.5 1600
1968 chassis
2006 Acura MDX
2013 Volkswagen Jetta TDI wagon
1995 F350 Powerstroke!
More...
- dbrick
- Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
- Posts: 10084
- Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:05 pm
- Location: Kenilworth, New Jersey
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
I found that whatever you paint it with will transfer/rub off onto the cloth inside on the top. If it's in the budget, powdercoat would be cool.
Mike PM me, I have a top frame the PO took apart and painted, but he lost half the bushings and hardware. Might save you some work. Bows, IIRC look nice. How is your front bow, any dent or cracking at the center?
Mike PM me, I have a top frame the PO took apart and painted, but he lost half the bushings and hardware. Might save you some work. Bows, IIRC look nice. How is your front bow, any dent or cracking at the center?
Dave Brisco
Take my advice, I'm not using it"
66 2000 The Bobster
64 1500 in pieces for sale
1980 Fiat X1/9
2009 Volvo C-70
08 Expedition EL, STUPID huge but comfy
1962 Thompson Sea Lancer, possible money pit
- notoptoy
- Vendor-Site Supporter
- Posts: 9700
- Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:55 pm
- Location: Winston-Salem, NC and Ocala, FL
- Contact:
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
I have not had this problem, but again, my top is never up!dbrick wrote:I found that whatever you paint it with will transfer/rub off onto the cloth inside on the top. If it's in the budget, powdercoat would be cool.
Mike PM me, I have a top frame the PO took apart and painted, but he lost half the bushings and hardware. Might save you some work. Bows, IIRC look nice. How is your front bow, any dent or cracking at the center?
"When all else fails, force prevails!" Ummm, we're gonna need a bigger hammer here.
67.5 SPL311 H20 w/5 speed
65 Impala Convertible
2017 C43 AMG
67.5 SPL311 H20 w/5 speed
65 Impala Convertible
2017 C43 AMG
- pebbles
- Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
- Posts: 3931
- Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:00 am
- Location: Washington
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
This may sound insane but I saw a utube of an Aussie soaking metal in a Molasses and water mix. Removed rust but not paint. May be worth it to look into a non caustic dip.
A blast media may get into the pivots and make things a little crunchy.
A black satin powder coat sounds nice too. Im not sure if it will adhere to red scotch brite scuffed zinc.
I agree with Brisco on the paint transfer. (black wouldnt show like silver).
A blast media may get into the pivots and make things a little crunchy.
A black satin powder coat sounds nice too. Im not sure if it will adhere to red scotch brite scuffed zinc.
I agree with Brisco on the paint transfer. (black wouldnt show like silver).
David
"When we were standing next to the motor while on the dyno, and the motor hit VVL, eyes went watery.."
"When we were standing next to the motor while on the dyno, and the motor hit VVL, eyes went watery.."
- 23yrRebuild
- Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
- Posts: 1161
- Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:19 pm
- Location: 3rd rock from the sun
- Model: 1500/1600
- Year: Low Windshield-64-67.5
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
I have given some thought to barrel nickel plating my soft top frame and associated hardware, cheaper than chrome, more durable than paint, and somewhat shiny.........
Mike - '67 Stroker / 5-Speed
- fj20spl311
- Roadsteraholic
- Posts: 5038
- Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:54 pm
- Location: San Diego, Ca
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
IIRC, Les at Classic Datsun Motorsports was Zinc plating them for his restoration projects...They looked like new...No Transfer problem.
Phil
67.5 SRL311-00148 Blue (FJ cruiser VOODOO Blue)
67.5 SPL311 FJ20E teal SDS EFI
69 SRL311 SOLD
19 Raptor SCAB
67.5 SRL311-00148 Blue (FJ cruiser VOODOO Blue)
67.5 SPL311 FJ20E teal SDS EFI
69 SRL311 SOLD
19 Raptor SCAB
- pebbles
- Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
- Posts: 3931
- Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:00 am
- Location: Washington
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
Zippy67 has mentioned KBS, good reviews and comes as a system, multiple color choices as well, self leveling, brush application. (could probably spray too). I'm liking the galvanized.
http://www.kbs-coatings.com/system-sampler.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.kbs-coatings.com/system-sampler.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
David
"When we were standing next to the motor while on the dyno, and the motor hit VVL, eyes went watery.."
"When we were standing next to the motor while on the dyno, and the motor hit VVL, eyes went watery.."
- 68DSU
- Roadster Fanatic-Site Supporter
- Posts: 1005
- Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:02 am
- Location: Fair Oaks, Ca.
- Model: 1500/1600
- Year: High Windshield-68-70
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
Vinegar works too. Any mildly acidic liquid does the trick. Be careful with the liquid though, the acid metal combo will stain wood. An old Craftsman era woodworking dye is to put old steel wool in vinegar for a couple of days and use it to stain oak a nice deep black color.pebbles wrote:This may sound insane but I saw a utube of an Aussie soaking metal in a Molasses and water mix. Removed rust but not paint. May be worth it to look into a non caustic dip.
A blast media may get into the pivots and make things a little crunchy.
A black satin powder coat sounds nice too. Im not sure if it will adhere to red scotch brite scuffed zinc.
I agree with Brisco on the paint transfer. (black wouldnt show like silver).
Anyway, it disolves the outer layer of rust/metal.
Rick
Constantly working on the Datsun whenever I get around to it.
1968 SPL 311
1987 Toyota MR2 T-top (don't hate, wife's car)
2014 Ford Mustang convertible
SPF 50
Constantly working on the Datsun whenever I get around to it.
1968 SPL 311
1987 Toyota MR2 T-top (don't hate, wife's car)
2014 Ford Mustang convertible
SPF 50
- spl310
- Roadster Guru
- Posts: 13241
- Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2002 10:38 pm
- Location: In front of this keyboard... in Jacksonville, Florida!
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
Uh oh, looks like we may end up with a discussion of Aqua Fortis!
"Wow, a Roadster!" Stuart Little
1967.5 2000
1967.5 2000
1964 1500
1964 1500
1967.5 1600
1968 chassis
2006 Acura MDX
2013 Volkswagen Jetta TDI wagon
1995 F350 Powerstroke!
More...
1967.5 2000
1967.5 2000
1964 1500
1964 1500
1967.5 1600
1968 chassis
2006 Acura MDX
2013 Volkswagen Jetta TDI wagon
1995 F350 Powerstroke!
More...
- Bigtaku
- Roadster Fanatic
- Posts: 408
- Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:10 pm
- Location: Dayton, Nevada
- Model: 1500/1600
- Year: High Windshield-68-70
Re: Soft Top Frame Restoration
Any new thoughts on this thread? I have a tan soft top and my frame is in good condition but not perfect. Just a few spots that need some love. I'm leaning toward the vinegar treatment.
Michael Montez